Thursday Open Thread

“It is by attempting to reach the top in a single leap that so much misery is produced in the world.”

–William Cobbett

15 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Voyageur says:

    Let the indictments begin!

  2. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    I'm hoping that Moderatus, Andrew, Negev, or Powerful Pear will stop by and enlighten us regarding the current, at least modest, crashing of the Trump stock market.

    Our "beloved" president has taken credit for the market's rise (even though it was the afterglow of the Obama economy). Will he take responsibility for its decline?

  3. Genghis says:

    A member of our well-regulated militia got drunk last weekend, locked himself out of his hotel room in Minturn, and opened fire in an attempt to get someone's attention. Mission accomplished, I guess, since he got the attention of Eagle County deputy sheriffs. 

    So much freedom. So very, very much.

    *insert photo of eagle crying tears of joy here*

  4. JohnInDenver says:

    I read this item in a Politico piece on the likely demise of The Weekly Standard, and thought its local celebrity mention was might be interesting to the Colorado Pols audience:

    If the publicity-shy Anschutz were a never-Trumper, he might continue to fund the magazine as an act of defiance as political magazine owners before him have. But he isn’t. Although he’s said to disdain Trump, giving the insulting amount of $250 to his 2016 campaign, he isn’t a never-never-Trumper, either, hence his reluctance to fund the Standard holy war against the president.

  5. itlduso says:

    Why is CO State Senator Danile Kagan (D-Greenwood Village)  resigning from the Senate on January 11?   According to today's Denver Post (page 2 headline) they imply that it is because of the allegations that Kagan went into the Senate women's bathroom on three occasions.  Kagan himself gives no reason for his resignation.

    I want more information.  Are the women's bathroom incidents really the reason he's resigning??  If so, is it because the Dem Senate caucus is forcing him out, in which it would be another case of #MeToo run amok (see also: US Senator Al Franken).  Or, is he too weak to defend himself against GOP charges that are just bizarre.  Or, is he actually some sexual weirdo? Enquiring minds want to know.

    I have known Daniel Kagan since 2008.  At that time, he led a pathetic PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) attempt to deny Barack Obama's nomination.  Thereafter, though, by all accounts he has been a stellar legislator.  In fact, State Rep Jeff Bridges who will be replacing Kagan, called him "the conscience of the Senate."

    What's really going on, Daniel?

    • Voyageur says:

      Who will take Bridges' place in the House?

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      Enquiring minds want to know.

      Maybe you should pick up that newspaper checkout line. Maybe you'll find your answer.

      • itlduso says:

        Maybe you should gain an appreciation for democracy.  Especially the part where elections are for specified terms.  Truncating those terms are disenfranchising the electorate.  This includes impeaching, but gratefully not convicting, President  Bill Clinton on frivolous mistakes.  Forcing Senator Al Franken out on frivolous allegations.  And, now Daniel Kagan resigning for what, I don’t know.

        Maybe you need some R&R  and  can come back when you have something meaningful to add.

        • RepealAndReplace says:

          Maybe you should gain an appreciation for hypocrisy.

          How the hell can Dems preach against the Pussy Grabber, Brett Kavanaugh, the Stache and Handsy Tate, when some – like you – would coverup and enable the pervs on our side.


        • mamajama55 says:

          I'm with you on this one, itlduso. The allegations against Franken were decades old, and none rose to the level of criminal sexual assault. Harassment, yes. Shameful and wrong, yes. If someone doesn't want to kiss you, you don't force them to kiss you, duh.

          Franken should have admitted, apologized,  (he did both) and vowed to "Go forth and sin no more." So no coverup, no enable, to R&Rs point below.

          Speaker Hastert, Brett Kavnaugh, and Donald Trump, however,  refused to admit that they did anything wrong, although numerous victims testified publicly about severe sex crimes, including rape and attempted rape, molestation, etc. As probable felons, they should not have been elected, and their fitness for office was in doubt, so resignation was the logical consequence.

          The problem with Steve Lebsock, Baumgardner, Tate, etc, was that they continued their bad behavior into the present day in the legislature , creating a hostile work environment. No one wants to feel like they might get grabbed or demeaned just trying to do their jobs.

          There are degrees of assault and criminality. One size of consequences does not fit all crimes.

          I understand the impulse to overreact in order to demonstrate sincerity of belief against sexual assault, but I don't think that it helps in the long run.

          People need a clear code of work ethics and professional behavior, with clear consequences for different degrees of transgression.  I think that our Colorado legislature will be encoding that this next session.

          • DENependent says:

            It is not surprising, but it is disappointing that you and other progressives defend Franken the same way Republicans defend theirs.

            The allegations were not all more than a decade old. Several women including Democratic staffer Tina Dupuy accused him of continuing to grope even after he was elected to the senate.

            Al Franken at least had the decency to do the right thing and resign and his behavior is not as bad as that of many other politicians. That does not mean he should have got a pass for it. Just because someone else has done wrong and gotten away with it does not mean that everyone else gets a "get out of jail free" card.

  6. mamajama55 says:

    Paul Ryan to retire in January 2019 – any bets on which reps will want that minority leader spot?

    How about a “Help Wanted” ad for the House speakership, Polsters?

    Our Cowardly Lyin’ would like to have McConnell’s Majority Leader spot, I’m betting. That’s one way that his recent slavish loyalty makes sense.

    The Chicago Tribune’s Jennifer Rubin has a fitting epitaph for Ryan’s speakership:

    He [Ryan] made his Faustian bargain with Trump on the false assumption that Trump would be compliant, take direction from House Republicans and demonstrate enough discipline to get through a slew of initiatives. That did not come to pass, because Ryan, in making his disastrous decision to place party over country and corporate tax cuts over defense of democratic values, failed to comprehend the depth of Trump’s unfitness and the centrality of character in determining a president’s success.,

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