Friday Open Thread

“If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion.”

–Noam Chomsky

45 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Voyageur says:

    A Cat-Five Trumpstink warning remains in effect in Europe from London to Helsinki.  Trump has proposed giving Alaska back to Russia on the grounds that the Tsar only leased the territory to Secretary Seward.

    Putin is pleased with his puppet.

  2. Pseudonymous says:

    BREAKING- special robert mueller indicts 12 russian nationals for hacking of DCCC, DNC & hilary clinton’s presidential campaign, and releasing it as DCleaks and guccifer 2.0

    — kelly cohen (@politiCOHEN_) July 13, 2018

    And during tea, no less. How uncivilized.

  3. Early Worm says:

    I read the Indictment, and am intrigued by the similarities and the differences with Watergate. In both instances, you have break-ins of the DNC (physical in one instance, electronic in the other). But with Watergate, it was the president's re-election campaign that directly authorized the activity. With Trump, the activity was conducted by the Russian government. Trump has that additional degree of separation, but his campaign cooperated/coordinated, at best obliviously, with a hostile foreign power. Say what you will about G. Gordon Liddy (go ahead, he deserves it), he did not conspire with our enemies. 

    With Watergate, it was the cover-up that ultimately took Nixon down. He lied about what he knew and when he knew it. With Trump various members of his staff, campaign, and family have lied about their contacts with Russia, but none if it has led directly back to Trump yet. If it does, will it matter? In the post-truth Trump era, with the obsequious republican congress, will it matter if Trump knew about his campaign's open solicitation of Russia's interference in our election? 

    • Davie says:

      Well, since Trump is building a strong trail of evidence that he is ignorant, oblivious and incompetent, he just might get a pass unless hard evidence of his many direct personal Russian ties included political collusion and/or blackmail.

  4. mamajama55 says:

    My money's on Devin Nunes as the congressman who received the GRU docs. Nunes was awfully eager to leave the hearing yesterday before the committee could start asking him awkward Russki questions, and remember when he went to the White House in the middle of the night to warn Trump about the investigation uncovering new stuff (which he wouldn't release to the public).

    Plus, he's neck-deep in covering up the Mueller investigation, as well as prematurely shutting down the House investigation.  He was up for re-election in 2016, as well as this year, and his re-election is overshadowed by the Russia probe.

    If I'm right, you can buy me a drink at the Pols Meetup tomorrow.


    • unnamed says:

      If you are right and that was uncovered, that would be sweet!

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      Or Dana Rohrabacher. Isn't he the one called Russia's favorite congressman by Kevin McCarthy?

      Although I'd love to Nunez – or as Trump calls him – the greatest American hero get busted.

      • mamajama55 says:

        Dang it. I think you're right – it isn't Nunes. He didn't have much competition in 2016 on the Dem side – an activist with no prior elected experience. Not much for the oppo research on that one. This year, it might actually be a contest with Andrew Janz. Nunes' district is no longer considered to be "safe Republican".

        The mystery GRU intel shopper could be Rohrabacher – he's dirty as hell with Russian money, and he is in a close race, now, with  primary voters saying Nuh-uh! to him. But he didn't even know which Dem he'd be facing, because of Cali's insane jungle primary system, so again no point to oppo research.

        The good news is that CA's congressional races are up for grabs, thanks to voters getting sick of the rampant corruption and Russian influence.

    • Pseudonymous says:

      I think it more likely that it would be someone with a race.  But, I expect we'll know in the next 24-48 hours!

  5. notaskinnycook says:

    ColoradoPols Meetup:
    I'm going to post this here as well as the meetup thread. The reservation is for 8 people at the Lowdown Brewery, 800 Lincoln St., Denver. See you all there.


  6. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    Indoors on a summer Saturday? It's prime hiking and climbing season in Colorado. I'll be out there. But do have a good time.

  7. notaskinnycook says:

    Oops! Deleting duplicate.

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