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November 02, 2009 10:05 PM UTC

Penry: Let Me At Him!

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  • by: Colorado Pols

As the Colorado Springs Gazette reports:

State Sen. Josh Penry is eager to go one-on-one with Scott McInnis, his fellow Grand Junction resident, former boss and rival for the GOP governor’s nomination.

“We’re not going to win this race on the front porch, having an iced tea,” said Penry, who’s generally regarded as the underdog. “We’ve got to get out and sell ourselves.”

McInnis, a former congressman, is just as keen to avoid intramural damage before the big match against the Democratic incumbent, Bill Ritter. Last weekend in Colorado Springs, he told a meeting of the Colorado Federation of Republican Women that governors running for re-election in Colorado have been turned out of office only once in the last half-century.

“When you face those historical odds,” he said, “the critical thing that we have to do is unify. In the past, unfortunately, we kind of formed circular firing squads.”

McInnis has limited his direct exchanges with Penry, and on Monday said he would never agree to a full-on debate.

The policy has been criticized by Dick Wadhams, the state GOP chairman, and Penry said McInnis’ refusal to debate is “at his own peril,” adding, “I don’t think that will last very long.”

A poll follows.

Can McInnis keep Penry at arm's length, or will he be forced to debate?

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28 thoughts on “Penry: Let Me At Him!

  1. He has better name recognition, better fundraising ability, and a lot more experience.  I think he’s right to ignore Penry and marginalize him.  Once Penry’s fundraising dries up, and it will, he’ll shrink back to insignificance, which is where he belongs.

    1. He lost the Iowa caucus, Nancy fired his campaign manager (who was the architect of the inevitable candidate strategy), he participated in debates with Daddy Bush (and the other GOP candidates, humilitating Bush at the Nashua Telegraph debate by showing up with Howard Baker, Bob Dole, et alia), and went on to win the N.H. primary.

      1. The strategy changed, as you said, when Reagan lost Iowa. McInnis hasn’t lost anything. He’s ahead in the polls and raised more money.

        If the polling turns against him, then I think he’d run to the nearest debate.

        Which he’d win, I think. Scooter is pretty good at debates.

    2. Is they keep saying when Penry’s fundraising/support/etc dries up. Wishful thinking won’t make that so.

      I think we’ll continue to see Penry improve in fundraising and even more importantly in the polls. And he’s a strong campaigner.

      If Penry can reach enough people, I think his question about what is McInnis afraid of will resonate. And if McInnis does win the primary, he’ll be in no condition to take on Bill Ritter as his approach to that point will have consisted of “run away, run away.”

      1. Contributors read the newspaper and hear from their networks, they’re asking questions amongst themselves.  

        The fact is you can’t stop progress and Penry has the compelling story, while McInnis is curled up under his desk.

        McInnis has been just plain lazy.  Its the total lack of situational awareness that led to the goofy Silverman interview, the telegraphing of planned 527 campaign violations, debate avoidances, etc…

        When your Party chief has to use the media to encourage you to debate you know there are problems.  

        1. Just not from lobbyists.

          1-45-105.5. Contributions to members of general assembly and governor during consideration of legislation. (1) (a) No professional lobbyist, volunteer lobbyist, or principal of a professional lobbyist or volunteer lobbyist shall make or promise to make a contribution to, or solicit or promise to solicit a contribution for:

          (I) A member of the general assembly or candidate for the general assembly, when the general assembly is in regular session;

          Best to read the whole statute, but I think fundraising is allowed.

          1. Still, it would eliminate a lot of funding sources if he can’t take money from any kind of lobbyist. Volunteer lobbyist could be construed to mean a lot of people.

            1. RedGreen, wasn’t that Amendment 54?  It was ruled unconstitutional by a lower court, there’s an injunction against it pending an appeal that will be heard December 3.

              I think the SOS office suspended its rulemaking pending the appeal.

              1. I thought that was part of JFG’s justification for resigning her seat to run for Congress, but I guess the prohibition on fundraising from lobbyists was enough. Gertie’s right, though, too, “volunteer lobbyist” covers a lot of ground.

  2. Your poll question is whether or not McInnis can avoid a debate with Penry.

    However, the options in the poll are whether McInnis should avoid a debate.

    I’m boycotting this election. It’s rigged!

  3. For years the Democrats lined up in a round formation (ask the ones who lost) and Republican’s ruled.  In two recent major election cycles Republicans not to be outdone formed a tighter circular formation and not surprising we have TWO Democrat U.S. Senators, a Democrat Governor and a Democrat Congressman in the 3rd CD (should I mention the state’s general assembly here?). McInnis is smart and should stay the course.  It’s too bad Wadham’s and his puppet Penry seem hell bent to prove they can outdo the Democrats in self destructing with their circular firing squad.

    1. Wadham’s thinks he’s the puppetmaster, what he’s doing is alienating the GOP. They don’t want someone already hell bent for a candidate. They want a leader who stay’s out of the primary and for a good reason. If McInnis wins, Dems are going to use the fact that even the GOP didn’t support him. Wadham’s is making a big mistake sticking with Penry and it’s not even 2010 yet. Watch it blow up in his face.  

    2. Thanks for spewing the scooter talking points here, Ellie.  Even used the same “circular firing squad” talking point.  Nice work.

      You might want to ask yourself why it is we have a D representing the 3rd CD at the moment. Had McLobbyist stayed the course we’d still have that seat.  However, he decided to cash out and leave us with the illiterate potato farmer. Thanks, Scott.

      1. who laid down not-so friendly fire on Coors, Beauprez and Schaffer in the weeks before their general elections.  

        He laid down some major media statements to the effect that if he had run, he’d have won.

        No wonder he’s been short on the money, he devalued peoples previous candidate contributions and now wants them to give his way.

      2. at Ben Nighthorse Campbell for giving up his Senate seat to the other Salazar, eh? Still Harbor resentment toward Mike Strang for losing the CD seat to a Democrat?

    1. I’ve been to League of Women Voters candidate forums/debates where Penry and opponents were on the same stage, and I believe he debated at a couple of Fall Club 20 meetings.

      Someone younger than me with a better memory please correct me if I’m wrong.

      1. but I’m sure he’s at least debated ballot initiatives.  He was on a stage yelling at Romanoff for coming up with A59.

        That’s the benefit of my younger, but probably worse, memory.

  4. in which he’s sitting on his front porch with an iced tea. He’d say: “My opponent in my own party thinks we ought to be out debating, trying to chop each others heads off. I prefer a more homespun response.” [McInnis sips tea.]

  5. His great advice has lost the following two big races….

    Bob Schafer in 08 (and lost ground in the state Senate while picking up two gimme seats in the state House as Chairman)

    then…

    George Allen in 06

    Let’s get that one way bus ticket ready for Dickhead to take after the 2010 election.

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