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December 12, 2017 06:34 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Learn what is true in order to do what is right.”

–Thomas Huxley

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  1. For no reason other than that I can…

    Moderatus says:

    October 18, 2017 at 12:07 PM MST

    Meanwhile you can't give away tickets to see Hillary. What Colorado Democrat wants to see her excuse tour?

    Hillary supporters turn out for book signing at Denver's Tattered Cover

    Jones was among a thousand people lined up at the East Colfax Avenue Tattered Cover bookstore on Monday, eager to meet Clinton

    I guess maybe Mikey Half-Price has a few things to learn.

  3. Sen. Tate's Supporters Lobbied In Front Of His Committee, Gave To His Campaign

    Tate chairs the Senate Business, Labor and Technology Committee. It deals with interests including liquor, marijuana, telecommunications and insurance. The lobbyists supporting him represent companies such as CenturyLink, Walmart, liquor organizations and others.

    All five women lobbyists worked on bills sponsored by Tate or before his committee. Three of them donated to his campaign.

    Previously, on ColoradoPols.

    1. It's one part of a picture. But you kind of have to expect that people who have had dealings with Tate would be the ones more likely to actually voice an opinion one way or another. Barring what they say is like, oh, asking for a jury of Trump supporters when you've conspired to blow up Muslims… On the other side, 100 people could come forward to say that Tate is a great guy; that doesn't negate a claim of harassment.

  5. Could this be the end for Trump?  Is this the "jump the shark" tweet that finally disgusts even Republicans?

     

    Donald J. Trump
    ✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office “begging” for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump. Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!
    6:03 AM – Dec 12, 2017

  6. Excellent analysis from Paul Krugman:

    What Happens if the Tax Bill Is a Revenue Disaster?

    Still, what happens if the deficit balloons, and it’s clear that gaming of the tax bill is a major factor?

    We know what Ryan and McConnell will try to do: they’ll try to use deficits as an excuse to cut safety-net programs. But will they be able to get away with this with the memory of the tax scam still fresh in everyone’s memory? I’m pretty cynical about centrists and the propensity of the media to be taken in by charlatans, but I think this would probably be a bait and switch too far.

    Put it this way: Republicans would surely use big deficits as an excuse to propose big cuts in social programs, but they’d face a barrage of hostile media coverage, plus lots of public demonstrations as in the case of health care, all reminding everyone that these deficits were created by their own dishonest promises just a few months earlier.

    And imagine, as we should, that all of this would go along with many front-page stories about dubious business types abusing the new loopholes. Doesn’t this sound like a political disaster for the GOP?

    They could, of course, simply ignore the deficit and leave Medicare alone. But my guess is that they won’t be able to help themselves, that they’ll be prisoners of their own rhetoric even as the most unpopular legislation in history becomes pure political poison.

    So that’s my prediction: minor market impact, but quite probably a political disaster for the GOP as it becomes even clearer that their tax policies reward scammers.

    I’m really looking forward to the 2018 elections — we’ll all get to send a little FU note to our favorite Republicans.

        1. Whatever happen to him? The last I recall, he appeared on DWTS and the felony charges against him were thrown out. What became of the Big Roach Killer? (And I'm not referring to Jeff Sessions.)

    2. Assume the Republican Congress CAN overcome their inherent conflicts and actually pass a bill for Trump to sign [not a sure bet, by most accounts].

      The impacts of many of the decisions of the current Republican majorities in the House and Senate will not be felt before the 2018 election. The deficit and its implications will not be clear before there is an effort to go after "entitlements" (Ryan's dream), further increase the military and security budgets without changing the "discretionary" spending for the civilian side of the budget, and gut PAYGO restrictions that would trigger immediate program spending.

      50% or more of the populace will not connect cause and (inevitable) effect, so they will be voting on tribal connections, their understanding of the party's claims and the personalities of those running. There will be Republican House losses in 2018, but it is hard to imagine a large enough tsunami to sweep away the Republican majority.

      1. To the extent voters (as opposed to just people) still follow the news, the general media seems to be less of a stenographer for the GOP and more willing to challenge the talking points — hence the overwhelming unpopularity of this tax bill in all the polls.  

        We need to stop letting Republicans set the public's perception, but to do that we need to get our own message out, which has been sorely lacking for the last couple of years.

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