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Udall Releases Statement on 2008

by: Colorado Pols

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 09:45:59 AM MST


Democratic Rep. Mark Udall released a statement yesterday in regards to his plans for 2008:

Congressman Mark Udall (D-Eldorado Springs), released the following statement regarding his plans for 2008:

"Senator Allard's announcement yesterday renewed a lot of interest in my plans for 2008.  It's no secret that I would like to represent the people of the State of Colorado in the U.S. Senate.  In 2005, I made clear that my intentions were to run for the U.S. Senate in 2008, and my intentions haven't changed.  A formal announcement will come at the appropriate time and place in Colorado, and I am also putting together the strongest team for a successful statewide race. 

"We face some real challenges as a nation and right now I have a job to do in the U.S. House.  Whenever I've wanted another job or more responsibility, I've always worked harder in my current job.  My constituents on both sides of the Continental Divide elected me to represent their views in the nation's capital, and I am going to work hard to be the best representative that I can be.  We'll have plenty of time for politics and campaigns later."
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All Americano Represenative Udall
He never stops working hard for his constituents to go off and campaign, like some other Colorado Reps we have who spend their time in Florida, Iowa, Arizona, and who knows where else for their political ambitions. Mark is here for the people of Colorado.


"Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again" - William J. Kole
I'm down with that
I appreciate an elected official who is actually focusing on governance.  The elections are over, we have a couple years till another go-round, and some serious issues to deal with.  I am looking for some leadership and effective policy. 
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The pre-announcement announcement
I'm sure he did this to make sure you all in bloggersville DON'T keep saying "What's Mark up to?  Why hasn't he announced?  There must be some mysterious machinations going on!"
I don't know where this all started
As Udall notes, he "announced" in 2005.  He's "announced" some more several times since then.  But some people don't seem to get it: Udall is running for, and will likely win, the Senate seat being vacated by Wayne Allard in 2008.

So here's another "announcement" - stay tuned for the official one.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

Sounds like he's running...
... just hasn't had time to plan the Coming Out Party yet.
Is Schaffer still in the closet?

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Schaffer wins if he runs
My vote is for Schaffer if he runs.  The scenario is so much different than it was in 04'.  Bob, please let me know when and where I send the first donation to your winning Senate campaign.
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Run Bob Run!
Hey HoserAuthority, Bob has more skeletons in his closet than the entire Colorado GOP. Good luck with that one.

"Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again" - William J. Kole
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The scene is much different today,
since in 2004 the far-right Republicans like Bob Schaffer had not yet been soundly rejected by voters.

My bet is Schaffer runs and beats McInnis in the primary, then loses in Both Ways Bob proportions to Senator Udall.

"But every Republican in the world is a lobbyist…" -- Bill O'Reilly

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Yes, please
What a delightful scenario you are spinning!
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I'm not sure even Condom Bob can achieve the level of incompetence that Both Ways attained
.....but I wouldn't keep him from trying!
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Schaffer's our boy!
He is solid and articulate and he oozes Colorado values.  This bad boy is in the bag.
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oozing?
Where's it oozing from? Has he seen a doctor? Sounds like a social disease.

What are you talking about?...I don't get it." - bjwilson83
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a pustule on the body politic?

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more like a pimple on the politician's posterior
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oh P-U-L-E-E-E-Z-E................<g>

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SKELETONS
You must not know Bob Schaffer.  To even say something like that shows your ignorance about Colorado politics.  Bob probably has more integrity and honesty in his little finger than any elected official in Colorado today.  Good luck with your idea of skeletons.
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for what's worth, I don't think Schaffer is gay........
  He does not set my "gaydar" off.  I don't know whether any of my "fraternity brothers" who post in here get any vibes from Bob Schaffer.  If so, please share........
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P.S. about Schaffer......
  While I don't believe Schaffer is gay, I do know that he has opposed the campaign to encourage the use of condoms by gay men. 
  When he was in the state Senate in the early to mid '90's, there was a "safer sex" display booth at the state Capitol which contained condoms.  Schaffer had a little hissy fit and trashed the booth when he saw the condoms.
  Ironically, there is a group of gay men who are into "barebacking," that is, the obviously unsafe practice of having sex without a condom.
  If Schaffer runs for the U.S. Senate, perhaps we see a group called "Barebackers for Schaffer."
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"Barebackers for Schaffer?"
Well, seeing as that would only play well in the gay community I'm not too worried about such a campaign.  The last thing most Americans want to think about is gay sex of any kind--bareback or saddled(?).
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intention to run?
Udall is obviously parsing his words quite carefully. The guy backed out with his tail between his legs in 2004 and will do so again. A safe seat is his for life and his pension does not vest unless he serves one more term.
It's all in the wording
When you officially declare your candidacy, you have to file paperwork, tax reports, etc..  Udall doesn't need to do that right now, and it'll save him the hassle by making the official announcement at a later date.

Hence the word parsing.  It's not really a question of whether or not he'll run - he will.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

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Latte Mark, D-Boulder is just looking for attention
He can't stand to see Mcinnis, Schaffer and Tancredo gett all of the attention.  It is smart for him to horn in on their party though.

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan
Latte Mark, huh?
What's with this nickname?  It doesn't alliterate, and it doesn't seem to point to a character flaw in Mark.  I.e. it's no "Both-ways Bob."

What do others think - is this effective or not so much?

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not so much

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It's lame
but many a hard right GOPer likes something snappy to say in order to slag their Dem opponents so we'll probably get to hear them bleating it for the next two years.

What are you talking about?...I don't get it." - bjwilson83
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Ya Missed the Key Part
Latte Mark, D-Boulder.  His shills are trying to parse reality by substituting El Dorado for Boulder, but you can bet Republicans will constantly remind everyone that Latte Mark, D-Boulder does, indeed, hale from that town with its own foreign policy, The Peoples Republic of Boulder.

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan
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Bleat!
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Terrible
It's almost as bad as "wrong Way Ritter" that some were posting a couple of months ago.  It only seems to roll off the tongue if you're Barbara Walters.

Come up with something truly catchy (and meaningful) and you might even find the blue-staters using it.

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I love it when you say, "Alliterate!"


"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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"Their" party?
Uh, isn't a vacate seat open to Libertarians, Greens, and anyone else?  Why do you see this as a Republican event?  And why shouldn't he remind people he will be a contender?  Good PR prior to paperwork being filed.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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Latte?
Mark wants to be Congressman Mark Udall (D-Eldorado Springs), but he is really (S-Boulder) as in Socialist from the Poeple's Republic of Boulder.
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Oh, yes...
I see where he's introduced bills for the government to take over all the oil fields, coal mines, Microsoft, the telco's.......

That's socialism, dude. 

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

[ Parent ]
by that same token.......
.....isn't Condom Bob really ex-U.S. Rep. Bob Schaffer (Theocratic Fascist-Hell)?
[ Parent ]
I prefer "Rubber" Robert
instead of Condom Bob.  It's more lyrical.

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan
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Agreed!


"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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Macchiato Mark our bumbling Boulder liberal....
Is flaming out.  He's trying for a press grab.  He's seen John Elway, Scott McInnis, Tom Tancredo, and Bob Schaffer-- all Republicans and all gracing Colorado's headlines.  He's looking pathetic already and he hasn't even announced yet.
Don't you get dizzy?
Spinning that hard?  I'm queasy just standing over here.

Here's a good quote Representative Udall gave when he was interviewed here at CoPols in 2005 and asked about representing Boulder:

In the end, no matter where we get our mail delivered, we are all Coloradans and we are all in this together. We need to reach beyond labels and work together to meet the challenges we face. Besides, I often tell folks that Boulder and Colorado Springs are remarkably similar communities; they are both nestled in the mountains, both rely on a high tech economy and share University of Colorado campuses. The only difference I've ever noticed is that Boulder sometimes has its own foreign policy.

[cue rimshot]

"But every Republican in the world is a lobbyist…" -- Bill O'Reilly

[ Parent ]
Rimshot blocked by Dobson!!! *Crowd screams*
I can't believe Macchiato Mark actually compared the People's Republic to Colorado Springs.  What a crackpot.
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You're right!
One sends a middle of the roader to Congress, the other sends a total crackpot.  One embraces all religions, the other shuns all but one.  One embraces new ideas, let the chips fall where they may, the other is scared shitless of them.

CD2 is a lot bigger than just Boulder, don't forget.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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Macchiato Mark's voting record is latte liberal.
That's why he keep getting voted in by the Boulder crazies.  I fully admit that Schaffer is irrefutably conservative.  Too bad the same intellectual honesty doesn't extend to the left. 
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It's not dishonesty, Doc
I looked at Mark's positions and a bit of his record and I just can't see him being far left.  I would define the latter as government control of the means of production, blanket gun elimination (which I wouldn't mind, but I am a man of laws, and I know what the laws - 2nd amendment - are.)

CD2, don't forget, is a lot more than Boulder.  Good conservative mountain communities, too.  I can't say what the voting results are there, precinct by precinct, but he obviously doesn't have those people pissed off at him. 

Middle of the road, dude.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

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Note this story on Udall and the top story on McInnis
Are there no right wing blog site smear jobs that Pols could copy for Udall?
I think the best we've got so far...
Is Latte Mark, and that's not much.

What are you going to say about Mark Udall?  He doesn't seem to come with the baggage that McInnis has.  I guess some winger religious nut could go after the well-known fact that the Udalls are Mormon.

Maybe someone at TTR could write up a piece "linking" him to Warren Jeffs and his merry band of federal fraudsters; they're both Mormon (kinda) after all.  Wouldn't have a single grain of truth to it, but then, it *is* TTR.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

[ Parent ]
I don't think they'll Mormon-bash as long as Both Ways Mitt is running in the top three in the GOP field

[ Parent ]
His uber-liberal record speaks for itself. He's out of line with Colorado values.

[ Parent ]
What are Colorado Values?
You keep on talking about these so called values, but you do the duck and weave whenever anyone calls you on it. So, what are colorado values?
[ Parent ]
I've made this clear:
Colorado is a fundamentally conservative state.  "Colorado values" are conservative values: small government and traditional moral values.  If you have any evidence to suggest that we have somehow strayed from these values by all mean let's see it. 
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I posted earlier
That more people voted for the marijuana initiative than they did for Bob Beauprez. If nothing that is interesting.

Since I am a liberal, elucidate me as to what traditional moral values are.

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Pot v Bob?
I'm afraid I don't see your point.  Beauprez was a terrible candidate who ran a forgettable campaign.  The potheads did a fine job campaigning and got the votes of plenty of Republicans weary of governemental regulation.  I voted "no" on Amendment 44 but I see why fellow conservatives disagreed.  Their position is much more honorable than Taverd's core consitutency of losers, college kids, and liberals. 

Traditional moral values are the lofty heritage we get from the Bible.  The Judeo-Christian value system is endemic to the country and particularly the Heartland--of which Colorado is proudly a part.  These values (I prefer the term 'virtues') are micro-issues like honesty, chastity and respecting parents, to macro-public policy issues like abortion, marriage, and pornography.  Lest I seem like the usual heartless monster of a Bible-thumping hack let me say that charity and care for the poor is a major part of the Judeo-Christian system.  That's why, as Arthur Brooks points out in his latest book, Republicans (who are overwhelmingly more religious than Democrats) give twice as much charity each year.  It's just that I think faith communities do a much better job aiding the poor than the government.  That's not just my opinion.  From alcohol addiction to homelessness, it is evidential that private and faith-based groups do a better job with the downtrodden than the local Welfare or Social Security office.

I'm 83% sure that Coloradans, generally, agree with me on that.  They may have differences with a little thing here or there but Judeo-Christian values ARE Colorado values.

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Faith Communities...
From my perspective, contributing to your local church is a very self-serving charitable gift.  98% of the donation will benefit only the church patrons.  I would estimate 2% of the funds, goes to non-church related community events and organizations.  Therefore, it is quite biased to say that R's are more charitable.

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In my experience
IMHO, the best charity I've run across is the Habitat For Humanity, which is not a faith-based group (though it does receive a lot of support from church groups).  Faith-based charities have had their share of scandal and mismanagement, just as secular charities have.  In short, there is little difference between The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and The Salvation Army when it comes to administration - both have done good things, and both have screwed up.  BTW, my guess is that with the combination of Gates and Warren Buffett's monies, secular charity has recently taken a significant lead over faith-based contributions.

Similarly, it is my experience that Democrats have a tendency to give more of their time, while Republicans tend to give more of their money.  If you poke around and see who's actually manning the soup kitchens and education centers, you'll find a lot of those damned bleeding-heart liberals.

BTW, take your "Judeo-Christian" home; Jesus taught us to lead by deed, not by bragging of our superiority.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

[ Parent ]
Habitat not faith based?
From their philisophy statement:

"At its foundation, Habitat for Humanity is a Christian ministry. While we do not require either our homeowners or our volunteers to share our faith in Jesus Christ, as an organization we base our work upon biblical principles and we remain dependent upon the grace of God to accomplish our mission."

Seems pretty faith based to me, but I agree they are a very well run and respected charity.

And finally, people who give money are giving their time, as it takes time to earn money.  I respect people of good will regardless of how they choose to give.

[ Parent ]
Colorado values..
Like a very strong environmental record?  VERY important to Coloradans.  Pro-gun (but not a whack job) like those Colorado hunters?  Introducing legislation to help family farms financially and open the doors to farm based alternative energy? 

Wow, those sure must be NYC values, huh?

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

[ Parent ]
Sure.
I think those are absolutely, and uniquely, Colorado values.  We have a proud history of conservationism that I'm proud of.  Both Scott McInnis and Wayne Allard--two conservative Republicans--have been instrumental in the conservation of Colorado's treasured wilderness.

Colorado is also pro-gun.  Very much so.  I'll disgregard your insignificant "whack job" comment as it has no bearing on the discussion.  We cherish our 2nd amendment rights. 

Alternative energy?  Sure!  I'd argue that we are a hub for energy resources--renewable and fossil fuel.  We lead the country in innovation so I see no reason why we shouldn't lead the process to ween ourselves away from Saudi oil.  But it's not the government's job to incentivize this innovation.  That's where Macchiato Mark is wrong.

[ Parent ]
Well, you see, those are all positions Latte Mark takes!

So, LM IS representative of Colorado Values!  Those items I mentioned (taken from his web site) hardly qualify him as some screaming liberal, do they?

Colorado is neither consistently conservative nor liberal.  It is still classicly western, sort of populists (that's how the Dems get in), far less predictable than many other states.  I'm talking the big picture of over 130 years.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

[ Parent ]
I'm well aware of Macchiato Mark's positions.
He received an 'F' from the NRA.  Hardly pro-gun IMHO.  On the environment he was solid...a little too solid.  There is a big difference between the Western conservative's conservationist perspective and that of Western liberals.  Liberals don't just hug trees.  They want to squeeze businesses so tightly they kill 'em.  I'm all about a robust conservation of federal lands.  But squeezing logging companies and particularly businesses is the wrong way to do it.  So is focusing primary on renewable energy while voting 'no' on ANWAR.  We need to be self-reliant for energy.  Ultimately we'll need to convert over to alternative sources.  But in the mean time--while we do the research--you can't pretend like we're still not reliant upon fossil fuels.  Macchiato's Mark's plan is to have us still be tool's for the Saudi princes while he pursues his pipedream of Smart Cars and ethanol factories by 2007. 
[ Parent ]
How many votes was that based on?
The NRA gives "F"s to virtually every Democrat, no matter their position on guns.

ANWR (note spelling) is a losing proposition to everyone except the oil companies and Alaskan residents.  It doesn't contain enough oil to be terribly useful, won't deliver it for most of a decade, and will require the destruction of some very sensitive terrain to get it.  We're better off tapping the oil shale here in CO, and that's not a proven winner, either.

In the meantime, our dependence on fossil fuels is causing a green revolution among the ranchers of Wyoming, eastern Colorado, and Garfield/Mesa counties.  People don't like it when fossil fuel extraction industries ruin their farmland.

Would you do me a favor and run off and go find the real *HGLQ persona?  Thanks.


"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

[ Parent ]
Your last quip was mysterious.
Is that kind of like, Will the real Has Godlike please stand up, please stand up?

But you're post was remarkably sober.  I'm very glad you want to tap the oil shale here.  Shall we tap it together?

The Wall Street Journal actually had a piece a while back about the NRA and how it actually endorses some 13% of Democrats n races--including our very own John Salazar.  It wants to avoid the image of being a partisan organization. There are many many Democrats out there who value the 2nd Amendment as much as Republicans.  Macchiato Mark is not one of them.

[ Parent ]
Way to avoid the other half of my statement.
Oil shale is not a winning extractive under current conditions.  I don't want to open it up, because no-one's proven that the total expenses don't outweigh the total benefits.

For that matter, you can't prove to me that the total expenses of MidEast oil don't overwhelm the total benefits.  Add in the cost of military actions, military escorts, etc. and the only reason we're still using oil at all is because no-one's got the capital to go head-on with the oil companies in a startup war with new fuels.

Taking the $13b in oil subsidies away from the record-profitable oil industry (the same one that constantly cries about not being able to afford new refineries...) is overdue.  Spending it on the accelerated development and deployment of production biofuel facilities similar to Green Power, the UNH Algae plans, and Los Angeles' Stirling Solar plant is the fastest way to resolve the MidEast conflict: remove the need for Western interest in the region.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

[ Parent ]
BTW...
The NRA "upgraded" Udall to a D in 2006.

I guess the long and short of it is, if you want to buy a gun without a background check, and think that gun manufacturers should be held to a lesser standard than other product manufacturers in lawsuits, Udall has some significant strikes against him.

Personally, I'm a bit more Jeffersonian on guns.  As an author once commented, "there are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.  Please use in that order."  But I take issue with the NRA and others who instantly think someone's bad for guns when they pass a law restricting them in any way.

"I have come to the conclusion that the making of laws is like the making of sausages-the less you know about the process the more you respect the result."  -- Anonymous IL State Rep. circa 1878

[ Parent ]
Since when do facts get in the way of a good smear?
I'm not saying anyone has a legitimate negative story about Udall and I don't know enough about him to say if he has anything to report (or distort).  I couldn't help but notice that there are two stories about aspiring Senate candidates with completely different angles. 

Call me the Colorado Confidential of Bizarro World.

[ Parent ]
Hahaha.
Bizzaro, the comic, one of my favorites, jus' like you!

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell

[ Parent ]
:)

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