Yeah, that’s not going to end well. Though MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow’s look at Colorado’s Amendment 62 last night gives a smidgen of credit to Senate candidate Ken Buck for abandoning the “Personhood” Amendment, allegedly over birth control, there’s still the matter of the distastefully hard line on women’s reproductive issues that Buck and several other Senate candidates have taken in general. We’re only talking about degrees of…we’ll let women voters complete that thought in a few weeks.
“Big government, small uterus,” indeed.
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Maddow? I didn’t know you’d given up so soon.
Rhodes Scholar, PhD in PoliSci from Oxford.
Far less irritating, too.
she’s also a lot more angry and bitter than you are Beej!
are you a racist biggot? You jumped there, and yet I have never made one racially charged statement.
You just took it there. Are you that hateful? Wow…I’m not into your kind of “KKK” ignorance. There is a place for everyone on this earth.
and your perceived IQ will go up by 20 or 30 points.
GOPwarrior is the racist.
Notice OBR hasn’t had anything to say for a while, and then as soon as Rachel Maddow is mentioned, he goes apeshit. I think I found the source of the problem: a woman somewhere had an opinion that didn’t derive from her husband.
They all look alike to me.
It has to do with her smug sense of superiority and condescending tripe, when she doesn’t know a thing. Compare that to Rhandi Rhodes, who I genuinely like even though I disagree with her. She cares about people even if she does think with her heart instead of her head.
Get over it.
Except that you’d have to add the sheer mean spirit that really defines Coulter. But setting that aside, Coulter is exactly how you described Maddow – smug, superior acting, condescending and ignorant. I guess those aren’t bad qualities in someone you agree with, however.
Interesting that someone who has plugged his own education (in a field not related to politics) as a reason for us to listen to him, would deride someone with a greater record of academic accomplishment (in the field of poly sci) as someone who “doesn’t know a thing.” That’s the sign that the actual reason you don’t like her is because you can’t address her points, unlike those of us who can show you what’s wrong with the opinions and analyses of Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, Malkin, Palin, Beck, or Coulter.
She’s not smart, just liberal. Knows how to play the academic game.
Makes sense to me.
Whatever Maddow’s subject, I’d bet all she had to do was spout liberal talking points.
Is more prestigious than a PhD from the state ag school. And you don’t even have yours yet.
You need to put yourself into perspective. Or we’ll do it for you.
I’m just sayin’
Are you dissing CSU? Any alumni around to defend it’s honor?
My oldest daughter went there.
I’m simply suggesting it’s not Oxford.
But you knew that already.
One of my advisers just spent a semester there.
I thought maybe, this time, for real, Pols had finally banned you. Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to be content to let Pols be a hypocrite and try to avoid feeding the trolls.
when the new Rasmussen poll is all the buzz…Gotta love COLOPOLS for doing their part to bury new polling numbers. Oh wait, I’m sure it’s a flawed poll, isn’t this like the tenth poll showing Buck ahead that is flawed?
How’s that IUD users are murderers thing working out for you, OBR?
They can have my IUD when they tear it from my cold, dead uterus.
Uteruses kill persons.
You can keep your personhood.
the (R)assmussin poll. won’t ya little guy?
your folks are doing just what I expected. EVERY POLL IS WRONG BLA BLA BLA…
show us one, just one Rass poll w/ a Dem leading …
they don’t poll in strong Dem races
they don’t release polls counter to their clients
they pull back in losing races and during end runs
conceding that this race does not have a strong Dem? That is what I’m deriving from your comment?
Just (R)asmussin this far out from election day.
I got so term work for ya OBR. keep tracking (R)asmussin Polls all the way up till election day. (R)asmussin will have their numbers darn near the very same as election results, AFTER election day. the last (R)asmussin poll to come out BEFORE Election day is the comparison.
Election results are the control
Before will tilt republican
After will be nearer to the actual results.
Interesting that you posted this comment after Pols posted their diary about the Razzy poll. Feel like copping to making a mistake?
Beej?
Aren’t most women anti-abortion anyway?
So what that the Senate has to confirm, or nor, Federal judges? So what that were one SCOTUS member away from ending RvW?
So what if Buck said he would sponsor a Constitutional amendment to ban abortion?
It’s not like anyone cares about any of this stuff,
You’re a fool if you think this isn’t going to affect the Senate race. Reproductive rights are directly tied to economic security.
haven’t you?
MADCO’s sarcasm so closely mimics the style of some of the TeaPublicans, and they’re serious. Easy slip to make.
It’s more bj and marilou, or anyone else who thinks this doesn’t matter, that I’m responding to. I think Rachel is catching the mood of women better than anyone else right now.
that we should pay attention to.
If we define personhood as beginning at conception, does that mean the individuals who were born 15 years ago can drive and individuals born 20 years ago can drink? Can people vote 17 years, 3 months after birth, since they became “people” 18 years ago at that point?
PARTY ON!
Maddow is not angry.
Maddow is not stupid
Maddow debunks GOP bullshit propaganda Nightly.
Maddow has More integrity in her little pinky toe, than all of Fox news.
now we will see the tea bag republicans yammer on and on about how Maddow this and that. when in reality they know they really can’t hold a candle to her journalistic Qualiies.
(and Maddow is far better looking than ANY republican! Palin & O’Donnell included.)
+1
+1
+1
+1
(And even though I don’t swing that way, I’d be her bottom any day of the week)
I think she has good reasons to be angry.
And she’s also the smartest person on TV.
Just to see how they’d start yammering. Having seen the show, I knew it would bring out their best.
Constitution is pretty clear that citizenship is conferred at birth. So I guess all those people in the womb are illegals.
Thanks a lot, NoCo_Indy! Who’s gonna clean that up?
They’ll put him in the sausage grinder down at Satriani’s
I must have music on the brain today. I hate blowing a joke.
LOL!
Constitution is pretty clear not that citizenship is conferred at birth, but a fetus becomes a PERSON at birth and that all persons born in the United States are citizens.
That is why, of course, the Personhood Amendment to the Colorado Constiution doesn’t mean gd thing. …until or unless Roe is overturned.
The Constitution as ratified had different definitions of person for different states (3/5.)
An “originalist” could easily allow a state to adopt personhood from conception.
Of course the point of the personhood movement is to overturn Roe
but you knew that.
Please let us not start this debate again. AFTER the Constitution was originally ratified with its 10 amendments, there were subsequent amendments, specifically the 14th which defined a person.
can try to take the conversation, over and over, to social issues but its not going to work. Coloradans know the real issues this year – over taxing, over spending, over regulating.
except we are one of the lowest taxed states in the one of the lowest taxed countries among developed nations. So really, compared to just about anybody in the developed world, we are under taxing, under spending, and under regulating.
than anywhere else in the developed world. If you like the higher taxes everywhere else…GO THERE.
(Or are you already in ‘Colorado’s Little Somalia’-El Paso?).
in Somalia. I can assure you, Colorado is NO Somalia.
My wife and I have those discussions. We have two options, move or try to change the situation.
We would like to find a place where our kids won’t be in a classroom with 26 others, where higher education won’t be available for only the priviledged few, where prisoners aren’t released early to save money and where roads and bridges aren’t left to ruin.
Two of the evil three pass and we will be trying to be the first off the sinking ship that is the state we love so much. While we may be a few of the first, we won’t be last.
Until then, we will serve in our community, educate those who don’t understand the downward spiral that we are in, and try to get people to think about the long term implications of having an uneducated, unhealthy, and shrinking population.
But you should have been a baby boomer. There were 31 kids in my 6th grade class, 29 in my 5th grade class.
That’s an extremely frightening thought.
She has already proven beyond a reasonable doubt that one doesn’t need to be smart to have an opinion. One also doesn’t need to be smart to vote.
You know that idiot in front of you in the checkout line of the grocery store? That person gets to vote.
We who frequent Pols tend to get tunnel vision sometimes. We argue issues with intelligent, high-information people (with some notable exceptions who will remain nameless, of course).
People like marilou vote, and its up to each side to figure out how to appeal to people like marilou.
It’s not an easy task. There’s little to go on.
I’m marilou and I vote.
If a few of you libs get together and proclaim the rest of the world stupid, that doesn’t make it so.
Such is the nature of opinion.
You’re not helping yourself.
Guess we’ll just have to let the voters decide. Oh right, that’s called democracy. Isn’t the Democratic Party supposed to support democracy?
I’m unaffiliated.
First Aristotle, now you? What is the Democrat Party coming to these days?
Some days, we Dems eat them too.
And I’ve been voting since 1988. Probably 98% of my votes are for the Democrat, but I can’t join a party that can’t get a little discipline behind it. And every time I think I’ll finally take the plunge, they do something really stupid, like vote for warrantless taps as they did in the summer of 2008. (Parsingreality said he was going to quit the party over that one, but judging from the things he’s said recently, either he didn’t go through with it, or he came back into the fold.) They also won’t stake out core principles to really distinguish themselves from the GOP. They need to be truly left wing, not half-assed centrist.
Someday they’ll have a visionary and brave leader again, one who will stick to principles, and that will probably inspire me to join. But they haven’t had a candidate like that forever – Clinton was the closest to that ideal I’ve experienced, but his hands are dirty with policies that have contributed to the current mess. And his indiscretions led to the presidency of George W. Bush (not entirely his fault, since Gore could have chosen to stand by Clinton and his record of success), something that will long taint his legacy.
If Obama wasn’t “visionary and brave” enough for you, you’ll never find a Democrat candidate to support again. He’s so far to the left he’s practically a socialist.
Only a hard right loon would think that, especially in the face of facts like Obama’s HCR package was almost identical to the proposed GOP compromises (gee, remember when the GOP would actually work with Dems rather than spit in their faces? Kinda sorta, anyway?) when Clinton tried it in ’94. Sorry, but that opinion just shows how outside the mainstream you are.
I’m thinking of someone like Roosevelt. Obama never really inspired me that much, other than that he couldn’t be any worse than Bush. (And he has in fact been a vast improvement over Bush.)
No thanks.
since I said “Roosevelt,” not “Hoover.” Although the similarities between that time and today are striking – GOP’s pro-rich policies destroys economy, leave mess for Dems to clean…
Dems turn recession into depression.
See: History (real history, not Glenn Beck revisionism).
A humous read from Washington Post on BJ’s history source…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
Of course had we gotten McGrumpy/Failin’ the worse scenario might well have played out.
Than spin crap on Pols and remove all doubt. You have already convinced me, beejster, well beyond a doubt.
(And I don’t think we need to ‘get together’–us libs–to reach some consensus on that).
That idiots get to vote, or that Ralphie is an elitist?
I don’t think that it’s necessarily elitist to point out that there are high-information voters and low-information voters, that the people who frequent Pols are probably the highest high-information voters in the state, and that to win an election, candidates must appeal to ALL voters.
Nor is it elitist to point out that the low-information voters are the hardest to reach.
I thought I was making a lighthearted joke and was placing myself in that “some who shall remain nameless” group….
Sheeeeeeee. Lightened up people.
Not even close.
So it never entered my mind.
That’s a compliment, by the way.
“the people who frequent Pols are probably the highest high-information voters in the state.”
Yup.
I’m marilou, I post on Pols and I vote.
Halp! Those big bad Dems are stealing the playbook that worked so well for us ‘pubs! It just ain’t FAIR! WAAAAHHHHHHH!!
Women care about these issues, marilou. Tough shit for you.
that the playbook changed, and Colorado Democrats are the ones who changed it. Starting in 2004, they have run almost exclusively on economic (kitchen table) issues and derided Republicans for trying to whip up frenzies over social issues. That’s the genius of the tea partiers, even if they don’t hew to it 100%, setting aside divisive social issues and just hammering the Democrats on pocketbook issues. It doesn’t hurt that we’re recovering from the deepest recession since yadda yadda yadda, but there’s a grain of strategy in marilou’s comment.
… we aren’t suddenly implying a past strategy used by our side is suddenly wrong. If it was right for pubs to play to social issues 6-10 years ago, it’s not wrong for Dems to go there now. Especially since this is mainly an issue because of the “every zygote is sacred” amendment which marilou supports.
If they didn’t want their extreme positions to be an issue, maybe they should not have gone there in the primaries.
no rino’s
No moderate republicans
NO Liburls
the tea baggers “vetted” their candidates as to whom was most pure and beholden to their “values”. Thus the most extreme and unwavering won the tea bag republican primary’s.
The candidates certainly did not want their extreme statements to come back to haunt them in the General. but to win the hearts and minds of the tea bag conservative crowd in the primary. they had to expose themselves, as the crazies they really are.
Like abortion is not a social issue? (See Buck, Ken)
Like too many brown people among us is not a social issue? (See Tancredo, Tom)
Like social diseaseas aren’t a social issue? (see lou, mari.)
It’s late. But I hate blowing a good snark. (Forgive me, Ralphie.)
Abortion is a legal issue.
Too many illegals is a legal issue.
Social diseases can be prevented by those with half a brain.