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Ritter Signs SB 228, Republicans Attack from...Grand Junction?

by: Colorado Pols

Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 11:56:12 AM MDT


Governor Bill Ritter today signed SB 228, which rescinds the budget-crippling Arveschoug-Bird amendment. According to a press release from the Governor's office:

Senate Bill 228, sponsored by Republican Rep. Don Marostica and Democrats Sen. John Morse and Rep. Lois Court, establishes consistent and reliable funding for transportation projects, while also removing an arbitrary allocation formula that prevents the recovery of vital state services when the economy recovers...

..."This is a fiscally responsible approach to creating a rainy day fund and ensuring that we are adequately funding transportation and capital construction," Rep. Marostica said. "More importantly, this accomplishes those goals without raising taxes."

 

Republican Rep. Don Marostica's deservedly praised sponsorship on this issue has made it tough for the right-wing of the GOP to really gain traction against the legislation, so how did they fight back?

Well, yesterday afternoon Senate Minority Leader Josh Penry and House Minority Leader Mike May held a press conference in Grand Junction.

Seriously.

The GOP leadership had to take its traction-less attack on a needed piece of legislation sponsored by a Republican member of the Joint Budget Committee to the tiny Grand Junction market in order to get somebody to pay attention to their cries.

We've been saying for months that Colorado Republicans would have been better off trying to find compromise on budget solutions rather than just saying no to everything. But instead they've held firm to their plan of doing nothing and complaining often, and now they're relegated to holding meaningless press conferences in Grand Junction because every other market won't pay attention any more.

Ladies and gentlemen, your Republican legislative leadership!

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Grand Junction the only market
I suspect that if Penry and May had wanted to use the Colorado Springs market for this press conference they'd have found a friendly audience.  But that's just quibbling, the Repubs tried to take Marostic to the woodshed this session and that failed, not to mention the bad press they garnered.  They just can't figure out who they are going to be when they grow up.

Except in Grand Junction
they get both a sympathetic audience and a newspaper that just uncritically prints what they say and doesn't ask any tough questions. (e.g., "OK, you say this plan sucks, what's YOUR plan?"

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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precisely
What would the 'pub response be if the situation were reversed (so there's no confusion, I mean 'pub Governor, 'pub legislature, possibly 'pub POTUS and most of the state's Reps and both Senators being 'pubs)?

Let's say that the 'pubs were reversing, say, funding for k-12 and the Dem leaders took their non-ideas and denouncement to Boulder?

It's the same thing. They're so marginalized that they have to retreat to an ideological stronghold to make their case. It doesn't say much about their morale.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP


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The Good News
is that the Sentinel has cleaned up some of the content on their website.  Dumping that shitty Junction Daily Blog was a step in the right direction.

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Funny that
In a little hick town like Grand Junction there may be only what?  10 bloggers total.  All of whom have a link at The Sentinel.  Junction Daily Blog was the one they dumped?  Must be a conspiracy.

Ref C was pork without the fat.

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Typical Penry Caterwauling Shit Blizzard
When you don't have a plan, just act like a two year old throwing a temper-tantrum.  I believe the people of Colorado are finally figuring out who Penry is.  And are now ignoring his juvenile antics.  Sort of like how you deal with other people with severe personality disorders.

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Reminds me of Ol' Dusty.


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after repeated criticisms that Ritter is the Governor of Denver
.
now you ridicule folks for acknowledging another part of the state ?
.

Larger usually wrong, get off the higher math principles and back to the basics
During these times of economic distress we have a wayward celebration of a new law that which rescinds the 6% budget spending Arveschoug-Bird amendment.

In dollar terms, its more ridiculous then a $400,000 Air Force One photo op. Much more ridiculous.


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You like me, don't you? :)
I think you have a wittle crush, Mister Liberal. 'Cause you sure do like to reply to me, even when I'm not talking to you. Reminds me of my first boyfriend...back in 3rd grade.  

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

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I don't look at who I am posting to unless I decide to insert their callsign
Middle, You feel I am posting below you too much, I will work to avoid that.

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Oh, I should be so lucky.
We'll see if you can keep your word about reducing the amount of replies you make to me.

And you seem perfectly capable of following a thread so cut the bullshit. Your excuse is about as weak as 90% of the flawed logic in your comments.

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork


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That's the lamest thing ever written
Although your incessant plagiarism of W's "the soft bigotry of low expectations" line is a close second. You don't even know how to properly apply the phrase either.  

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid." - Nietzsche  

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the soft bigotry of low expectations
You're the expert, please apply it properly.

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Shall I start with the obvious?
That would be the low expectations one would have when engaging with you in an intellectual debate.  

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid." - Nietzsche  

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Hey there Liberturd
So glad to see that you have indeed gotten over me and moved on to a new crush. Congrats, Middle?

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Yes- it eliminates the 6% AB limit, by replacing with something even more arcane
And neither of which has anything to do with total state spending nor revenue.

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How IRONIC
It would seem it doesn't make any sense at all that the press conference would come from Grand Junction (a small Western Colorado city).  I checked the varacity of your implications that Josh had to shop cities all around Colorado to find a paper that would listen to him.

Guess what I found out?  Well, it turns out that Josh Penry is - get this - from Grand Junction.  (I know you won't believe me on this so here is my source:
(http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_dir/Senate/members/Sen07.htm  - according to this it says SD 7 - Grand Junction is a city in SD 7).

Imagine that!  Penry was shopping all over Colorado only to find that the city he lives in was the right one to make his announcement.

What a waste of time for Penry to travel all over Colorado all the while being turned away by each and every news outlet - to finally find out that the best place to make his response is the paper where he lives!

I mean if I were Penry and I lived in Grand Junction I would probably have just made my press conference from Grand Junction in the first place rather then travel all the way to Denver for a 5 minute press conference.

You guys amaze me.  The insight and political accumen you bring to the table.


Ref C was pork without the fat.


Read slowly, please, so as not to hurt yourself
Penry AND House Minority Leader Mike May, who is from Parker, southEAST of Denver, held the press conference. The leadership of BOTH houses went to Grand Junction, the smallest market in the state, to make this attack.

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Or
I can't confirm this - but Mike May was visiting Grand Junction when the press conference was made.  Shocking!

Ref C was pork without the fat.

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True
You can't confirm shit.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche


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I believe May has businesses thoughout Colorado and some other states
He was working. You know, keeping households on the payroll, providing services to customers, buying from suppliers and paying taxes -- you know ... the old capitalist based economic model.

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You either believe or you know
Oh, and thanks for dumbing it down for me on the whole "old capitalist based economic model" thing.  I never would've quite understood that concept as well from my past two decades of doing it.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche


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MD is probably right...
May was probably in town for the opening of his new Holiday Inn this week, hence the scheduling opportunity.
Re: Penry, isn't this the same shill who did the energy industry's bidding in confusing the severance tax issue.  The industry single-handedly financed Amendment 52 last November and he took the lead in advocating it.  You know...the one that would have taken monies Western Slope communities depend on to deal with energy impacts and shuffled it to I-70 construction...with absolutely no guarantee the funds would stay on the portion of the Interstate on this side of the mountains.  
Hypocrisy and opportunism...don't you love it when a plan comes together?

"No snowflake in an avalance ever feels responsible."  Voltaire

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Pony Up
Name a program that would have been "cut" if Amendment 52 had passed.

Only under the dome(s) in Denver and Washington can freezing a budget and indexing it for inflation be considered a "cut."  

That dog aint gonna hunt.


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There were two programs that would have been cut if Amendment 52 had passed
In order to fund 52, monies that are normally appropriated for water projects and community impact funds from the severance tax would, at least in part, been diverted to fund construction on I-70 and as one person mentioned above, there was no guarantee the money would be spent on the West Slope portion of I-70. Therefore, a good deal of the impact funds which go to West Slope cities and counties would have been diverted away from them.

The other goofy thing about 52 is the fact that severance tax revenues are notoriously irregular based on the historical up and down market for oil & gas and hard rock minerals. Even if it would have been a good idea, it would not guarantee a steady flow of funds to fund I-70 projects and second, the paltry amount it would have raised would barely make a dent in the existing requirements on I-70. For example, the elevated portion of I-70 in Denver will require at least $800 million to repair. Also, to solve the congestion problems between Denver and Eagle County will require expenditures of $4 to $10 billion (depending on the option one picks) and those figures are three years old. 52 would have raised the measley sum of $25 million each year.

52 was a ruse to make it look like the Republicans were tackling the shortage of funds for transportation without really addressing the overall funding problems. In the end 52 was nothing more than another example of the Republican motto: "There isn't any public policy problem we can't ignore."  


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Amendment 52 was simply
an attempt to scuttle Amendment 58. Along with a multi-million dollar ad campaign by Big Oil and Gas, it worked. Make no mistake, Penry drove the Amendment 52 bus because COGA tossed him the keys and said, "drive!".

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of mans' oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."    John Kenneth Galbraith

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IF ONLY you knew how it works in real life...
Indexing for inflation is a wonderful concept...if only the increase in impacts was at the rate of inflation.  That may work for ongoing impacts from production but lags tremendously the impacts from exploration, drilling, etc.  As an example, Garfield County's road supt. told the legislative interim committee in '07 that it costs about $1M/mi to build a county road to normal rural standards but $3M/mi to make that same road able to handle heavy trucks and industrial traffic from gas development and drilling.  Given Colorado's assessment practices, there's a 2-3 year lag before property taxes from new develoment are collected, so impacts lead local revenues and the locals never catch up.
Ain't it the sh**ts when real life conflicts with your philosophical suppositions?

"No snowflake in an avalance ever feels responsible."  Voltaire

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You mean like
The minimum wage increase in our State Constitution, indexed to the metro area?

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Now that Denver centric special was a real rural jobs creator


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You're probably right
May was on vacation in Grand Junction and just happened to stop by the press conference on his way to a winery.

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Wow
You people are unbelievable.  Your insistence that all things political must occur in and around Denver will be your undoing.  This is a big state with diverse people and interests.  

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Damn straight
This state is more than just Denver. It also has Boulder...

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

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It doesn't have to happen in Denver
But Grand Junction? Some day you'll actually look at voter numbers and see that 85 percent of Colorado voters live along the front range between Ft. Collins and Pueblo. Holding a press conference in Grand Junction is only slightly more useful to a Colorado voting audience as holding one in Salt Lake City.

This isn't someone's opinion - it is a straight-up, verifiable fact: There aren't enough voters in the Grand Junction market to make much of a difference in the state. Hold a press conference in Boulder or Colorado Springs or Ft. Collins or Pueblo. Doing it in Grand Junction is stupid, plain and simple.


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Although I wouldn't diss the West Slope in this fashion...
... after all, it's conceivable that nearly everyone in Western Colorado, from Creede, Durango and Cortez to Craig and Steamboat Springs, feels like they can share in whatever attention Grand Junction gets. I really don't know, but I can conceive of that.

But Pols is right - even spreading out to embrace everything west of the Continental Divide, you're not talking about a lot of voters. You are, however, talking about a safe audience for the kings of NO, and probably no one from those pesky front range papers and TV stations to ask hard questions.

I'm sure Penry feels nice and safe at home, and I'm sure May was glad to go with him so as not to be challenged at all. Cowardly, but perfectly understandable.

"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP


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Dogs are hunting...no response from you?
Don't see any snappy comeback now that R36 and I have called your bluff in the previous post on W. Slope impacts of Amendment 52.  Might also note young J-Boy was in the room for that interim committee testimony.
Pony up (as you challenged) yourself!

"No snowflake in an avalance ever feels responsible."  Voltaire

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You're going to break your back with stretching like that


"Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP

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Breaking news...
It turns out that the Senate Minority Leader trumps the House Minority Leader.  Further, the Senate Minority Leader lives in Grand Junction and has a family and a life outside of Denver.  Shocking!  Just shocking!

Ref C was pork without the fat.

What is not shocking...
is that you are a complete dumbass.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche


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Don't diss us Clevers Middle !
We are many (ahem, in a strictly electronic sense).

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche


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But we now know that both Penry and Mays are soft on terror, according to Coffman


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