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Oh NOW they notice. Business Community targets yet another Working Family Bill

by: Blue Day Colorado

Tue Mar 03, 2009 at 16:35:42 PM MST


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If you work on Capitol Hill, whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, you've probably heard at least something about House Bill 1170, which would allow an employee who is subject to a lockout initiated by an employer to receive unemployment insurance benefits [Pols edit]. Or maybe you've noticed that GIANT YELLOW BANNER UP THERE ^^^

The bill goes before Representative Joe Rice's (D- Littleton) Business and Labor Affairs Committee tomorrow (3/4 upon adjournment) and for the most part, this common sense bill has had a lot of support from House Democrats and even a few Republicans (albeit privately).  

But not until the day before this bill goes into committee, does the so-called business community really start to go BoNkErS (Blue Day Colorado crazy letters emphasis).

After flying under the radar for quite some time, it was  not until today that representatives from the so-called business community, finally showed up at the Hill, and began screaming that the sky is falling yet again.  

Blue Day Colorado :: Oh NOW they notice. Business Community targets yet another Working Family Bill
After the successful killing of two labor-friendly bills and one more on the block that would help Colorado's fire fighters organize, the business community is in a panic about the real possibility that HB 1170 has a fighting chance.

The so-called business community should be worried, this bill is fair and moderate.  It would simply restore Colorado law to what it had been for decades.

And don't the Democrats have to at least pass one worker friendly bill? The arguments are sound for this one and this is the State Legislature's best chance at following up on the "Working Family" values train that they rode in on.  

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For those who don't speak General Assemblese
House Bill 09-1170 is entitled "Unemployment Insurance Employee Lockout."

Siege Mentality
It sounds like the "business" strategy here is to starve them out of their labor complaints so that they will agree to a weak deal out of desperation? Whereas having unemployment would increase their ability to hold position? Interesting dynamic.

I do assume that a strike, as opposed to a lockout, would not qualify people for UI since a strike is like quitting and a lockout is like being fired.

"One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up." - C.S. Lewis


that's my understanding as well
if workers choose to go on strike, that's one thing.  But if management throws them out of work, when they lose their job through no choice of their own, then they're unemployed and should be able to collect the bare minimum that is unemployment insurance.

It only seems fair that if any other worker in Colorado who gets laid off can collect unemployment to tide them over, so should union workers.

And if they can't collect unemployment, won't that mean more foreclosures, etc?


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If a worker is unwillingly prevented from working
He should get unemployment.  It really is a no-brainer.  If on the other hand he willingly joins a work stoppage, he should be on his own (with whatever the union is willing to let him have from their funds).

Blond women all look the same to me-sxp151

How are they denied benefits?
This is no different from laying everyone off.

Amazon tax? Bad Idea!

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That sounds like
what cologeek is saying, David.  

[ Parent ]
not according to Bill Owens
he changed 30 years of Colorado employment law in 1999 to specifically exclude locked-out union workers from unemployment benefits. HB 1170 would simply reinstate the old language.  And it's not like unemployment amounts to much anyway, I think it maxes out at around $1600 a month.

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A Post for Libby


"Yes Twitty, I'm an idiot." Ben Stein's $$

Didn't click the utube vid, so who is this business community?
Come on, they apparently are goose stepping all over the capitol throwing a hissy fit. I'd like to hear some names or faux roots organization names.

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Hear from workers regarding House Bill 1170!
Hear from workers about HB 1170!


Can we stop saying "business community?"
I'm the CEO of a growing, profitable, successful company and I really don't like being lumped in with these short-sighted self-centered nincompoops.

How about instead the "cro-magnon branch of the business community?"

Amazon tax? Bad Idea!


The who?
Laughing, ok, David fine.  The "cro-magnon branch of the business community" is the most powerful lobby in the country. Even if all the others combined into one, they would be outgunned.  I am sure glad some  people understand that.  Here's hoping 1170 passes, it should.  

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Hey Tim, did they lay this bitch over yet or actually hold their nuts and vote on it?
I can't find the committee room it's being heard in.

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Too much BoNkErS
The business community needs to save its freak-outs for something more important than unemployment benefits for lock-out-ees.  Otherwise people might stop listening to them.

FYI
I work at the State House and the business lobby has been lobbying against this bill down here for quite some time.  

Thanks for that.
I was just about to ask if their lobbyist are that bad.

"Don't go all "Ralphie" on me now: Just let it go." - Steve Harvey

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