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Amendment 59 - Increase funding for K-12 schools

by: DavidThi808

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 11:16:40 AM MDT


This is a very complex bill, for two reasons. First the restrictions of TABOR require significant complexity in addressing it's ratchet-down effect. Second, it focuses this funding on core educational expenses so that the money is effectively spent.

Further info at Colorado Ballot - The Education Funding and TABOR Rebates Initiative

DavidThi808 :: Amendment 59 - Increase funding for K-12 schools
Arguments For
Amendment 59 - creates a savings account for public education. SAFE dedicates a permanent source of funding to public education, preserves the right of citizens to vote on taxes, and untangles the fiscal knot in Colorado's constitution.

It will dedicate a permanent source of funding to preschool-12th grade education and enables the state to protect public schools from cuts during economic downturns. The State Education Fund can be used only for public education, from preschool through the 12th grade.

Arguments Against
Amendment 59 places future funding for education at the discretion of the state legislature. Without fixed increases, legislators could provide less than inflationary increases for K-12 education in some years.

Without a limit on spending, government is more likely to increase fees. TABOR requires that money collected above the spending limit be returned to taxpayers. When the state is providing rebates, government has little incentive to raise fees because the additional money is rebated to taxpayers. Amendment 59 weakens this disincentive and thus is likely to result in an increase in the amount of fees charged to people.

Vote Yes! Investing in our future Vote Yes
Without this bill, in a couple of years when Referendum C ends, we will again be back in a system where state revenue, adjusted for inflation, will drop over time. Reduced income means reduced state spending. And when that last happened it had a catastrophic impact on the state. We cannot lead in the 21st Century when we are spending at 19th Century levels.

In short, this is not just about education, it is about providing adequate funding for the state. If you want to invest in our state's future, this is the single most important vote on the ballot.

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It's a tax...
That is at least what opponents consider a sufficient argument against 58/59 as they put more money in the hands of the government. Nothing is more annoying to me than the notion that reductionist notion that tax=bad. It all comes down to what we do with the tax money (and the manner in which we collect it). As it stands, our taxes are so low, and thus the amount of government services, that we are much worse off than we'd be with higher taxes to support education and health care spending.

"One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up." - C.S. Lewis

It is a permanent Referendum C, but worse ...
It is a permanent Referendum C, with no D and dedicates funding to only k-12.

It leaves out funding for health care, public safety and transportation --- these we will learn require specific tax increases down the road.

Amendment 59 proposes amending the Colorado Constitution to:

* eliminate rebates that taxpayers receive when the state collects more money than it is allowed, and spend the money on preschool through 12th grade (P-12) public education;

*eliminate the required inflationary increase for P-12 education spending; and

* set aside money in a new savings account for P-12 education.


[ Parent ]
It shelters non-education spending.
While 59 does not do anything for funding other than P-12, by creating designated funding for education, it protects the rest of the budget from being squeezed out by P-12 spending. So it indirectly does support other areas like health care.

"One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up." - C.S. Lewis

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Wrong, under this Amendment
health care, public safety and transportation --- these we will learn require specific tax increases down the road.

You can count on it like we counted on RTD crapping the bed 3 years ago.


[ Parent ]
Previously...
When we had an economic downturn, TABOR reset lower and would prevent spending the full revenues while Amendment 23 forced greater spending on K-12 anyway. Thus everything else got short shrift, namely higher ed. This creates a isolated funding mechanism to help fund K-12 in those crunch times. How does that not lessen the crowding out effect on other spending areas?

P.S. RTD is awesome. We need to make sure it gets the support it needs to keep service at high levels as great mass transit systems make for great cities. Especially at a time when it is harder for people to afford car commuting.

"One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up." - C.S. Lewis


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That's a brilliant description
of how things work in our state.  TABOR says that we vote on every tax, single subject rule says separately.  This wouldn't change that.

The amendment is designed to loosen budget constraints.  Show me where any supporter claimed that this is the last tax initiative.  Who said that this is the silver bullet?  Pass this and everything will be fine forever?

There could be more specific taxes later?  If that's your best argument, fine, but don't pretend there's a sinister ploy to cover it up.


[ Parent ]
Andrew
knows what he is doing and understands our financial problems better than anyone.  If we can get out of this mess we are in with TABOR and Amendment 23 we need to do it!  

Just a little perspective, please
I will vote for 59 because it is another cut out of the wacky TABOR constraint, and the only way we will get to any kind of policy rationality is by chipping away at TABOR.

While I agree that Andrew is an exceptionally talented person, let's not raise his reputation to a level for blind following.  He, along with Cary Kennedy, were the architects of 23 and they have to bear some culpability for the debacle.


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59 is a yes
This is not just a feel-good measure "for the kids"--it's crucial to the future of our economy to prepare well-educated people ready to enter the 21st century job force.

Anybody else catch this gem?
"I think it's a grand idea to get rid of TABOR refunds," McElhany said. "But those dollars really should be locked up in a real rainy-day fund so that it smooths out these ups and downs in state revenues."

Slightly shocking, but not a bad point...

Not enough of a reason to vote "no" either.


Loved that
How is the rainy-day fund in 59 not "real," given that it would triple our state reserves?  At El Pomar, it seemed that McElhany opposed the idea of protecting P-12 schools, in particular, from economic downturns.  I'm not sure how common a sentiment that is.

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That's pretty much how Romanoff came back
I think with the idea that if you didn't have to fund such a huge part of the budget (he says 43% and I believe him), the downturn wouldn't hurt so much.

I should have posted the article before, fyi, http://www.gazette.com/article...

Check out the comments, they're priceless.


[ Parent ]
Blog
The Colorado Fiscal Policy Institute has set up a blog to track Amendment 59 and put out information and endorsements. You can find it at:

amendment59.blogspot.com

It'll be updated almost daily through the election, so be sure to check it out!


This is being debated tonight.
Channel 12 at 8:00.

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