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Go Ken Salazar

by: DavidThi808

Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 16:34:57 PM MDT


Mitch McConnell was going for cheap political points and Ken Salazar answered him very well quietly including that McConnell's proposal was a "phantom solution." Kudos to Senator Salazar for being the responsible adult where his doing so will be used against him.

DavidThi808 :: Go Ken Salazar

Watching this got me thinking about the following:

It looks like the main issue Republicans are going to hammer Democrats over in this election is oil prices. This strikes a lot of Democrats as ineffective since the fault for the present crisis is clearly due to Republican ineptitude.

That would be a mistake. As the Denver Post reports:


"Americans just want something done about this problem. . . . They don't want to go back over what's already happened, whether the Bush administration has screwed things up," said Karlyn Bowman, an expert on public opinion at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington.

"I think that public has been rethinking the energy issue. You're definitely seeing some movement in the direction of more drilling," she said.

In other words, we're in a world of hurt right now and people want solutions right now. Discussing who's fault it is is not just irrelevant to the problem at hand, but is wasting time that could be spent addressing the issue.

So what to do? Well one key piece is clearly bringing forth a credible "Manhattan Project" type plan to bring us to energy independence (and drastically reduced carbon emissions) as quickly as possible. And this must include a plan to move all new vehicles off of gas within the next 2 years. The immediacy of that shift starting would have an immediate impact on oil prices as the oil producing countries would then be strongly incented to reduce prices to the level that the issue loses it's urgency.

Ok, that's all well and good. It is actually addressing the problem and all of the policy wonks in the country will be thrilled. Unfortunately, while the above helps in the political discussion, it's not a home run. It's barely a single. It's not sexy, it's complicated, and it doesn't have a giant impact today.

So what if we add this little zinger to the equation. According to ABC News:


In the most recent quarter, Exxon Mobil said it spent $8 billion buying back stock, versus $7 billion on capital and exploration expenditures.

What if the Democrats proposed a law that restricts stock buy-backs at the oil companies to 5% of the amount the spend on exploration (and alternative energy production)? And in addition point out that there are enough approved leases, off-shore as well as on-shore, for the oil companies to be drilling tomorrow if they invested all their profits in doing so.

The beauty of this approach is it pushes the drilling solution back on to the oil companies. Plus it makes the Republicans look like shills for the oil companies rather than people trying to find a solution.

Because how do they counteract such a proposal? It won't fly politically to say that Congress needs to do twice as much so that the oil companies can spend half their profits on increasing their stock price instead of increasing the supply of oil.

I think putting this proposal out there would destroy this as an issue for the Republicans. Plus, while it will take some discussion to determine if it's a good idea, it's definitely worth considering.

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Go Ken Salazar | 8 comments
Moving all new cars
off of gas in 2 years is impractical.  GM's Volt will only have a production run of 10,000 for it's 2010 model, and 60'000 for 2011.  5 to 7 years would be much more realistic, and also give us time to evaluate the long-term practicality of the concept.  Moving to make hybrid-electrics the standard in the meantime would be much more realistic, it would require much less retooling on the assembly lines, and give the auto industry time to deal with the costs of the changes.

People do want to see something done about energy costs.  Gas is the obvious one, but utilities are going up as well.  Sen. Salazar may talk about "phantom solutions" but the working people aren't looking at a phantom problem when it comes to being hurt financially.  You can argue that domestic drilling for oil won't help.  But when the response to people hurting is a big "So what?" from the left, any solution put forward by the Republicans will sound good.


In 1942 we converted the car assembly lines...
...from cars to tanks - in under 1 year. Switching the powertrain is trivial compared to that. We can do it, if it's important enough to us to do so.

I do agree that we Dems need to step up with solutions, not just say no, no, no to the Republican's bogus proposals.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


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That conversion
was costly, though minor compared to the rest of the costs of the war, and was done as part of a national emergency.  Sen. Salazar apparently does not believe that we are in an emergency right now, so would he vote taxpayer funds to help with that conversion?  
Also, redesigning vehicles that use a gasoline drivetrain into an all-electric setup is not trivial, the design parameters for each is quite different.  In most cases it would take almost as much time to do a new vehicle from the ground up.  And you would most likely get better results.

[ Parent ]
You're saying America isn't up to it?
We also "converted," without much government assistance (paving some roads) from horse and buggy to the automobile in about a decade. The Chinese are converting from bicycles to automobiles at an impressive rate. Why do you downplay America's ability to accomplish what it sets out to do?

[ Parent ]
If you set the timetable
for a decade to get the new technologies on the road I wouldn't have a problem.  2 years however, seems to be more of a panic button setting, rushing things forward regardless of the economic consequences.  Natural change, like the automobile replacing the horse, will work better than making top-down demands on manufacturers.
BTW, China took the better part of a decade to grow from approximately 1.2 million cars produced per year (1999) to the 8.8 million produced last year (2007).  It takes time to retool an industry, much of China's auto manufacturing capacity is converted from military use.

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We'll have to disagree
I think we are in a crisis, between the ongoing economic damage of high oil prices, the cost of the wars we have to fight (plus we fund our enemies), and the damage to the climate.

I see no reason to do this slow & easy. And the costs of doing it fast are less than the costs we incur from doing things the old way as we slowly change.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


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sometimes, like right now,
.
when I click on a link for a video, it plays 2 seconds and stops.  When that happens, I can't play any videos or audio until I reboot.

It happens to me periodically.

Does this syndrome have a name ?  Known cause ? Preventive measures ?
.


It could be a ton of things
1. If you don't have a high-speed connection then this will happen.

2. Make sure you have the latest service packs for Windows.

3. Make sure you have the latest Flash player available here

4. Make sure your anti-virus is up to date. And if it has not done so in the last week - have it scan your entire system. If you don't have anti-virus go to avast.com

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


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