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If no alternative candidate emerges in HD-23 to stop Nate Marshall (who has very apparent ties to White Supremacism as apparently the Stromfront poster NateTheWatcher) from getting the GOP nomination, I hereby endorse, and encourage all Republicans/Libertarians/Others to support, the Democrat Max Tyler. Anybody who votes for NateTheWatcher has no business claiming to believe in the conservative principles of limited government. We need to have a bipartisan effort to rid politics of outright (and not just trumped up, but outright) racism. To do that, we will need to have universal opposition to NateTheWatcher who again, is likely Nate Marshall.
Elliot, good sleuthing. Nate Marshall is a real piece of work – he also is a petty thief and a scammer, exposed by 9 News for apartment rental fraud.
Max Tyler, on the other hand, is a great legislator, willing to work with moderate Republicans. He did a public forum on the CO health exchange with Amy Stephens.
I get this anti-muslim crap in email occasionally. I used to reply and fact-check it, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the True Believers.
This is just excellent work Elliot Fladen. Good on you sir.
Second that emotion! Well done!
Good job Elliot. And why, I wonder, do so few of the people spouting this garbage look at all like superior physical specimens or sound at all like superior intellectual specimens? Most of them are nothing if not walking advertisements for the absurdity of their claims.
The inverse correlation is quite striking
@EF,
Would you give an update on the status of "Nate the Watcher" and one of the other links. On Stormfront, it says that "nate the watcher" was banned. One of the other links said the page was no longer available.
I have family who vote in Lakewood. It is just critical that I can give them current and accurate information.
Thank you very much.
When I screen-grabbed one page last night on my phone it said "Account Inactive". Now it says "Banned". I doubt anything major beyond this being a breaking story changed in the course of 18 hours or so.
For the screen grab, see here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100994739076713&set=a.10100385503534623.2443806.221368&type=1&theater
Thank you.
Elliot
I just wanted to say thanks for this post. I think we all know that a true Democracy requires that government power gets shared and shifts from one group to another across time. We all know at some point we will be in the majority or the minority depending on the times. What I hope for is that when people with different view points control our government, they are reasonable people who care about the welfare of the entire population and not just their narrow faction. You showed today that you aren't a slave to your ideology and can recognize people who are beyond the pale of reasonableness. It gives me hope that the next time Republicans gain control of our state government they will work for all Coloradoans and can play well with others. I see hope of that today.
Thanks for the post.
Your welcome.
As with any cockroach, perhaps this racist insect will scurry away now that you have turned on a light and exposed him. Nice work, Elliot. While you and I may disagree on much, on this we are in agreement.
I grew up in the segregated South (pre-1964). I hold no truck with such racist vermin.
Let's hope that Nate is the Republican candidate in the general.
The GOP: Party of Hate® needs more people such as Nate.
Hoping your opposition will field candidates to crazy to be elected is what led to Hitler (which, incidentally, is something that Marshall possibly is happy with).
Nobody, of any self-respecting party, should hope that a person along these lines gets the nomination for any major party. Because one day, one such person may get lucky and win a race. The risk of such is too high to not have immediate and universal opposition from all corners of the mainstream political spectrum
Elliot,
Invoking Godwin's Law is a non-starter.
"to crazy" should be "too crazy". Maybe someday, we will be able to edit our posts here.
If Nate runs, he damages the Republican brand.
If Nate runs and wins, he will really damage the Republican brand.
I love situations that keep Ryan Call awake at night.
Godwin's law does not apply when you are talking about a Stormfront.com contributor.
(the idea behind Godwin's law is that it is really demeaning to call your debate opponent a Nazi when you are fighting about animal rights, gun rights, or which baseball team is better…that concern though isn't really applicable when your debate opponent ACTUALLY IS a Nazi or its equivalent)
ElliotFladen wrote: Because one day, one such person may get lucky and win a race. The risk of such is too high to not have immediate and universal opposition from all corners of the mainstream political spectrum.
The problem isn't just winning the race, it's also winning enough–even if it's not a majority–to inject ugliness into the mainstream. I believe David Duke once get something like 30% of the vote, when he ran in Louisiana–obviously not a enough to win the race but enough to influence it, or at least give credibility to the more ugly elements in society.
Agreed
Duke was actually a Louisiana State Legislator under the Republican Party banner for a while. 🙁
I stand corrected.
What led to Hitler was the overwhelming majority of ordinary Germans who supported for a variety of reasons in the aftermath of WWI. Otherwise he could never have risen to such heights as a virtual nobody of no account and low social position. He got to where he was because of massive, enthusiastic support.
Really lame attempt to make a connection between Hitler's rise then and silly Dems here and now. In fact, Dems have done quite well in elections in competitive states and districts when the GOTP has chosen to run the most extreme candidates. That's the reason Harry Reid survived, Bennet survived and then of course there was the loser GOTP fruitcake who so famously was not a witch. The list goes on.
America's competitive states and districts today are not equivalent to Weimar Germany then and the safe ones are safe for a piece of toast with the right letter, R or D, attached. So did you throw in the lame Hitler comparison because you were getting nervous about how too many compliments from us would be taken by your wacko friends? Needed to show you're still a good little rightie who pisses them libruls off?
BC,
Read more. Hitler was able to consolidate power because groups that could have initially opposed him held back in the hopes he would be revealed as a nut and they would be able to benefit.
I pointed that out to illustrate that hoping your opposition selects candidates/issues that are too nuts to win carries a big risk: they might win.
I've read plenty on this subject. Of course at first there were those, especially among the establishment elite, who dismissed him but, bottom line, he was wildly popular among the masses. The German people themselves created Hitler. Without the overwhelming support of average Germans nothing could have made a supreme leader out of a low born nobody in that society.
I stand by my statements that 1) the competitive districts and states here today are not at all equivalent to Weimar era Germany in replicating the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler, 2) that the most extreme candidates have helped Dems win in competitive states and districts in the recent past as demonstrated by the results of those elections and 3) that Rs and Ds will win in safe R and D districts regardless with very few exceptions.
Naturally you don't want crazies from the dominant party running in those safe districts but it happens. Still, not often enough and not in enough places to transform the US into Nazi Germany.
Your attempt to compare this to the rise of Hitler with silly Dems laying the part of enablers in your pearl clutching scenario remains lame.
Can we just agree that we all should universally OPPOSE people like Nate Marshall and not root for them to be candidates?
Yes, I can agree with that principle. But the larger question (the one snarkily alluded to by Dave Barnes): why would such an extreme, fringe candidate feel that the GOP is his natural base from which to launch a campaign?
The Democrats ridded themselves of the Dixiecrats a half-century ago, and the GOP welcomed them with open arms. The cancer on the GOP has yet to be treated, much less cured.
Exactly.
If your a Republican you're not necesarily a racist, but if you're a racist, you're very likely a Republican. This truth needs to be exposed.
And far too many Republicans are ony too happy to put racism, overt and covert, to use in their messaging.
Yes. Nate Marshall is a complete joke. He is not a "candidate". I seriously doubt anyone is "rooting" for him. Gross.
Hitler was the right individual at the right time. He was an extraordinarily gifted public speaker. My mother saw him speak at a rally in Vienna, before her family fled the country ahead of the Nazis. She said that what was terrifying was his ability to shout absolute nonsense, but in a way which made one want to agree with him. He was expert at playing on people's emotions.
Others have written much more knowledgeably about the state of the German people, and how and why the political climate was perfect for Hitler's rise to power.
I saw the Rev. Sun Myung Moon speak once – he reminded me of my mother's description of Hitler as an orator. Fortunately, Moon has passed away, with most of his cult, leaving us only the legacy of the Washington Times' extreme right wing views.
I don't think that this Marshall guy is anywhere near as threatening as Hitler – he seems to be a small time con artist. Max Tyler will eat him for breakfast, if Marshall gets the GOP nomination.
And I think Elliot's right – Godwin's rule doesn't apply if the subject actually is a Nazi.
OK then. I'll apply the over the top degree of pearl clutching rule instead.
PS Moon was never anywhere close to taking over America either. That's my objection to a comparison that equates the degree of danger. Completely different culture and circumstances.
Dems having a chuckle over a candidate like this whether you think that's OK or terrible, does not represent a credible threat that we are on our way to devolving into a state just like Nazi Germany. That's at the heart of the Nazi rule, not whether someone is or is not, in fact, a Nazi. These comparisons are ridiculous because they are so over the top in terms of degree.
i agree with you. The Moonies were always a cult. A multi-million dollar cult that ruined thousands of young people's lives, but a cult nevertheless.Moon was always pretty up front about his admiration of Fascists in general – he was a rabid anti-communist.
My comparison was only to the oratory and politics. Moon's paper, the Washington Times, is frequently cited by serious journalists as a credible source.
davebarnes, don't fight with elliott today, He did a very good thing. Now play nice.
And I have blown through a good portion of my morning dealing with this in spite of the fact that I have actual paid work 🙁
Well, we lawyers are sort of called upon to do Pro Bono. I guess I contributed to that somewhat today.
It's frightening how blurry the line between The Onion and reality can be; I had to re-read the Denver Post piece to re-assure myself, it wasn't my imagination.
Elliot, time to give up the law and shore up journalism.
Great idea! I'll go from one industry in decline to another! What could go wrong? 😉
(seriously though – thanks!)
If Jeffco Republicans want to get Marshall away from their certified ballot line in November, they should find a petition-on replacement candidate Real Soon Now.
How did this guy ever get approved by the cacus? Don't the parties do any research on unknowns?
No abortions. Check.
Obama a Tyrannical Socialist. Check
Likey the guns. Check.
Looks like you're in. Just hang your hood and robe on the rack over there if you like. Oh, and you'll have to leave the burning cross outside: there's no smoking.
There isn't a lot of vetting done by local parties for this kind of thing. His Candidate Affidavit was only filed March 5, which is basically at/after the caucuses. And he checked off the basic Republican requirements when the assembly voted on his unopposed nomination.
Further, even if they did find out about his background, if someone signs up as a party member and is unopposed in a run for office, there's not much that the party can do – the HD assembly can't vote "none of the above", so he wins by default. The best they can do is disavow support of him and either support a petition candidate for the primary or pressure him to resign his candidacy during certain timeframes, allowing a vacancy committee to appoint a replacement candidate.
not much the party can do
A candidate has to be nominated and seconded and then win at least 30% of delegate votes in order to be nominated to the primary ballot (or can petition on). Simply running unopposed doesn't get you a major party nomination.
At the caucuses and intermediate level assemblies, delegates can vote "Uncommitted". But AFAIK, at the HD assembly level, there's no option for uncommitted or none of the above delegates. I beleive that if Marshall was the only candidate declared and voted through caucuses, then he's the only possibility at the HD assembly.
So you get to the HD assembly and your choice is an apparent racist or – you don't have another choice. One person votes racist, no-one else can support him, but they don't have any other options. Marshall receives 100% of the votes cast. A quorum is present, the assembly is in session, the question has been put to the floor.
FWIW – Nate Marshall is now starting to take his stuff down. But don't worry! We already have the relevant stuff saved at the Independent. Tons of it. Look for an update later. It will blow your mind.
I've never been there. Link please?
It's already gone, gone, gone: http://www.facebook.com/natemarshallpolitics
I know this guy. He is a complete douchebag that doesn't deserve all this attention. No party would want to touch him with a ten foot pole. He is CRAZY and a disgusting human being. The best thing to do would be to ignore him so he just goes away!
Perhaps he will come to this forum and defend himself…there being three sides to every story.
Thanks for the diary, Elliot.
Your welcome.