Tancredo Gets Matching Funds

Uncle Sam thanking you for your contribution to this nutbag

What a complete and total waste of taxpayer money.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche

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by: Fidel's dirt nap @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 16:33:22 PM UTC

My thoughts exactly.

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by: ModerateGal @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 16:58:40 PM UTC

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It's the risk we take in a democracy.

Said funds will also go to some very good folk on both sides.

At least TT can't raise enough to qualify for much.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:00:17 PM UTC

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they should have at least a chance

if they are going to waste taxpayer money.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche

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by: Fidel's dirt nap @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:05:36 PM UTC

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"Having a chance" should never be criteria

That's part of the public funding purpose,to give those who don't have a chance, a chance.

We could say the same for Richardson, Kucinich, Ron Paul, etc. But their presence and contributions to the greater process are too valuable to not support.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:31:29 PM UTC

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Don't agree

let their supporters pay for it then.  I know they add something to the process but it shouldn't be on the governments dime.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche

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by: Fidel's dirt nap @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 18:00:16 PM UTC

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I get your point,

but did you even check the box on your tax return to fund the campaign matching fund?  Even if you did, wow, your contib was a whopping 3 bucks.

Public financing of campaigns is one of the very few things we get to "choose" whether or not to fund.  If you dont like the Tank and other 3rd tier candidates getting your hard earned tax dollars, dont check that box when you do your taxes.

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by: Dabee47 @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 18:10:26 PM UTC

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I don't check them

I don't check any of them because it says doing so will not have any impact on the outcome of my return.

" The webinar is free, however, there are only 250 spaces available "

Some douche

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by: Fidel's dirt nap @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 21:08:26 PM UTC

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Actually "having a chance" does become a factor at some point

Back when the primary process was more prolonged, if a candidate consistently got below a certain percentage of the vote in each primary, he or she would be at risk of losing matching funds.  With the new compressed calendar, I'm not sure that has any relevancy.

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by: One Queer Dude @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 20:11:22 PM UTC

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Aren't we experiencing....

...a prolonged calendar and not compressed?  The new season started the day after Election Day, 2006.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 20:14:39 PM UTC

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the CAMPAIGNING is prolonged

But the actual voting has been compressed from running between Feb. and June, to running between Jan. 19th and Feb. 5th.

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by: One Queer Dude @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 23:41:30 PM UTC

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I see.

Once upon a time there were no primaries.

The parties met the proverbial smoke filled rooms. They wheeled and dealed, and set up their nominee.  Usually that man wasn't even in the city.  Send him a telegram.

Then folks took it relatively easy until after Labor Day when the real campaigning took off.

Imagine that, two months of campaigning.  For the 2008 cycle, it will be essentially 23 months.

The Republic moved on, it had presidents both good and bad.

Frankly, I think that was a better system.  It has become too, literally, democratic. The fear of the fore fathers fulfilled.  (Good alliteration, huh?)

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 23:47:20 PM UTC

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That's good to know.

When do we get to meet the good ones?

/snark/

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by: ModerateGal @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:07:26 PM UTC

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I was thinking the same as I wrote that! :)

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:31:50 PM UTC

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$94 B deportation. What a crock.

Read the details.  Put every illegal in jail for a month? And why in jail for a month?  Why not a day?  Or a year?  Or tell them to get the hell out of here, if you don't check in at the border within seven days on the way out there will be prison time the next time you are caught?

What planet are these guys from?  We already know from the way back experience of Operation Wetback, and the more recent experiences of tighter laws here in CO and in OK that many choose to self-deport if there is any heat on. If it ain't easy, most don't want to be here.

A hand ringing fait accompli attitude.


"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:06:12 PM UTC

Details

They took the average time for processing... That's where the one month figure came in. However, they did not include the cost of finding all of them or court costs.

They also didn't calculate the cost to farmers and other businesses when there is a labor shortage. This is a complicated issue and that is only one part of the equation.

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by: lanman2k @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 17:30:52 PM UTC

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when conservatives talk about "waste, fraud and abuse" of tax dollars, this must be what they mean

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by: One Queer Dude @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 20:08:41 PM UTC

WTF does matching funds....

have to do with illegal immigration?

If it would cost us $94B to get rid of all our illegals, I'd say we should write that check tonight.  It's cheaper than a year's worth of pointless war in Iraq, and the payout on our investment will be less than one year.

Of course, the country clubs will have to pay living wages to their grounds crews (they are virtually all Spanish-speakers), but if the working poor can afford to shop at Wal-Mart again, and Local 7 has some actual bargaining power in negotiations with the grocery store chains (which are offering subsistence wages now, because they can), I'm all for it.

The progressive case for removing illegals is stronger than the conservative case.  But Parsing is right: if you make it financially unprofitable for them to stay, they will leave of their own accord.

The only tragedy is that the charge to end illegal immigration is being led by a xenophobic buffoon. 

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by: Faster Pussycat @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 22:03:05 PM UTC

Sorry...

...meant to put that in the open forum.  Most puzzling.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 23:48:14 PM UTC

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(Slaps forehead)

Of course, that's it, it has to do with TT and his favorite (only?) topic.

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 23:49:00 PM UTC

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