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January 24, 2013 06:20 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“A bureaucrat is a Democrat who holds some office that a Republican wants.”

–Harry S. Truman

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44 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

    1. Are you a United States Military combat veteran?

      Truman was. While he was turned down for an Appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point due to poor eyesight, he joined the Missouri National Guard in 1905(he memorized the eye chart) and eventually deployed to France as a Captain, in Command of Battery D, 129th Field Artillery, 60th Brigade, 35th Infantry Division, upon America’s entry into WW1.

      His outfit fought off a surprise German assault on their position in fierce hand to hand combat. Battery D also laid down heavy artillery fire support for George Patton’s armoured assault at the Meuse-Argonne Offensive.

      President Truman was definately a man that had seen the horrors of war, had made a decision to drop two Atomic bombs, and in context, was justified in a remark in 1945 that today would be callous at best.

      In a society where “men” scream for their gun rights while aggressively avoiding military service, and women are now taking up the slack and void in the U.S. Military left by a cowardly but nonetheless gun crazed male population by serving in combat roles, anyone other than a combat veteran who quotes a statement like that by President Truman sounds like ted nugent, dick cheney, “w”, mittens, and rove.

      1. Oh, I’d bet my sacred left nut that Nockworst is not a veteran. Most vets have a genuine love for the country they served. Lunchmeat boys loves only his own ego and whatever money he can scrounge while demonstrating his independence from the government dole by living in Mom’s basement. Patriotism for the far right is a sucker bet.

    2. What a surprise. Nockworst apparently made up this quote.
      I can find no source for it. And it is highly unlikely that Truman would have said it, since it apparently stems from the difference in the Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombs.

      To quote the Wiki: “Two types of bombs were eventually devised by scientists and technicians at Los Alamos under American physicist Robert Oppenheimer. The Hiroshima bomb, known as Little Boy, was a gun-type fission weapon made with uranium-235, a rare isotope of uranium extracted in giant factories in Oak Ridge, Tennessee.[31] The other was an implosion-type nuclear weapon using plutonium-239, a synthetic element created in nuclear reactors at Hanford, Washington. A test implosion weapon, the gadget, was detonated at Trinity Site, on 16 July 1945, near Alamogordo, New Mexico.[32] The Nagasaki bomb, Fat Man was also an implosion device.”

      I am not sure Truman would have been briefed on the technical differences and almost certainly would not have used that difference to justify his bombing — especially since he dropped both types.

      So, Lunchmeat boy, either show a source for your quote or admit that you are a lying piece of crap.

      1. Thanks Voyageur, I never found it either.

        Guess when I answered his post, I assumed if he said President said that, it must be true.

        That won’t happen again.

        1. As soon as I read it it struck me as not at all the kind of thing Truman would have said but exactly the kind of crap that circulates in rightie forwarded e-mail world.

      2. Just one of Knuck’s sly little racist digs. He’s never outgrown the “jap” jokes popular back when I was growing up. Pitiful little critter, he is.

    1. Your PR person sucks.

      Have you tried the “WOMEN COMPETING FOR PROGRAMMING HONOR?!?!” angle? Media loves when you can show them a real, live GIRL doing BOY THINGS like code.

    1. I think maybe you mean pointless.

      Treason, Article 3, Section 3

      Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

      The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

  1. The GORP (Grand Ol’ Rape Party) is at it again:

    A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.

    House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for “tampering with evidence.”

    “Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime,” the bill says.

    Given the fact that it has no chance (Dems control both chambers of NM’s legislature), one really wonders what the legislator is trying to prove.

    1. Someone needs to explain prenatal paternity testing to Brown. If the evidence is so important to the trial, they can test the aborted fetal tissue.

      1. No-one needs explain anything, PC – it’s the same old anti-choice crowd looking to excuse their callousness by yet one more inane excuse.

        I do hope one of the conservative SCOTUS justices (or swing vote Kennedy) retires this term, because most of the current state laws against abortion are obvious legalistic ploys attempting to circumvent Roe v. Wade and not addressing actual issues.

        1. I just wonder if some interest group sold this to the GOP rep by telling her (accurately) that in abusive relationships, the abuser may be “choosing” on behalf of a pregnant woman–whether the choice is to keep or terminate the pregnancy, it’s rarely the woman’s choice if she’s still married to her rapist. The “with intent to destroy evidence” part would be so hard to prove that it doesn’t seem like it would actually halt many abortions, though it definitely is a setup for a court challenge to Roe v. Wade, and whatever group came up with this legislation surely intends it that way–I just wonder if the rep does. Maybe I’m being too generous.

          1. Don’t assume anything. Like, don’t assume that someone “sold” her on this idea, because it’s possible that she came up with it all on her own. Frankly, that’s much more likely and believable.

    2. And given the fact that dead bodies, even fully grown ones, are often used as evidence… .

      I’m so sick of this macabre horseshit. Don’t those ghouls ever think of bright sunrises, warm embraces, velvety cat fur, or ripe peaches? They’re truly psychotically obsessed.

  2. Must see TV!!!

    Senator Kerry is literally holding class, toying with the clueless pinko twits on the SOS confirmation hearing.

    rubio, johnson, mccain, and now barasso have failed in an embarrassingly flacid attempt to discredit SOS Clinton and the President.

    Sen. Kerry shows no daylight from SOS Clinton. His acumen is not only 4.0, his ability to humiliate these red lightweights is very obvious.

    While redleg duplicity and outright electioneering is on view, so is the unquestiond competence of the Senator from Mass.

    Watch this, it’s worth it.

      1. Rand Paul is a thoroughly dangerous man. You know those kind of guys who plot military coups in third world countries? I think he is one of those kind of guys…

        1. So you don’t believe the US is shipping armaments from Libya to Turkey?!!!

          Loved it when he said (later) he didn’t have any “reports” or “evidence” to that effect, but it still needed to be answered.

          Yes, he’s dangerous. And clever.

          1. We ship a lot of arms to Turkey. They have been an ally for decades. Whether we ship them from Norfolk or Tripoli makes no difference.

            This conspiracy theory is being proffered by one of the worlds’ foremost military and political experts…Glenn Beck.

  3. I do not have the technical savvy to post it, but I know one of you does. The internets are reporting an AFT raid at 4648 S. Swadley Way, Morrison. Google that address. Someone needs to post the street-view pic. I am thinking that has to be a USMC flag.

        1. That photo could be 2-3 years old.

          Who knows what the story is, maybe the former Marine picutres was foreclosed on by 1st Bank because he lost his Western slope job as a a landman. The bank the auctioned off the house to a shady Denver lawyer and native New Yorker, who then rented it to some undocumented investors from Russia, who then sublet it to undocumented workers with ties to MS-13.

          The back story being that the ATF went there to collect the Fast and Furios weapons.

          Then again, it could be just a simple of an urban white household.

          1. Or edited….

            That photo could be 2-3 years old.

            Who knows what the story is, maybe the former Marine pictured in the google street shot was foreclosed on by 1st Bank after he lost his Western slope job as a a landman and his wife lost her electrical power engineering revives business.

            The bank then auctioned off the house to a shady Denver lawyer and native New Yorker, who then rented it to some undocumented investors from “Russia”. The “Russians” then sublet it to undocumented workers with ties to MS-13.

            The back story being that the ATF went there to collect the weapons deployed under Fast and Furious.

            Then again, it could be just a simple raid of an urban white household.

            1. I am a firm believer in presumed innocence. I do not know who the guy in the picture is. But, the picture is dated, by Google, as August 2012. Here is a better picture of the flag http://goo.gl/maps/9Pv7E . The press reports are that the suspect told the undercover agent that he was a “former marine.” If he said that, he is, in my experience, almost certainly lying. Once Marine, always a Marine.

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