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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
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CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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(D) Joe Neguse*
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(D) Adam Frisch
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(R) Ron Hanks
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
90%
CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
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CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
60%↑
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May 12, 2011 08:31 PM UTC
87 Comments
Tebow: 33%
Orton: 25%
Tebow is outside the MoE!
Nice work, Hancock team. Favorables are higher than I expected for both. I’m starting to like this race a little more now–looks like it’ll be a contest after all.
Still a lot of undecideds or not strongs. Only 57% are strong for either candidate. Turn out is going to be a huge factor.
Looking forward to taking your questions at 1pm right here at Colorado Pols.
There are some interesting numbers here.
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As always. Thanks.
The pollsters obviously haven’t been reading the Polsters:
http://coloradopols.com/diary/…
Then again, what the hell is the difference between these two candidates anyway? You got exactly what you wanted, “Pols,” a runoff that guarantees yet another stinking corporate “Democrat” as mayor of Denver. Congratulations, you fascist handmaidens to the corporate plutocracy. How much do you get paid for selling your souls to the highest bidders via ProgressNever?
Humina, humina, humina. A few words strung together and you almost have something approaching “analysis.” See, I can use ironic quotation marks too!
I too think Pols try to construct narrative that doesn’t actually exist too often.
For the record, I wouldn’t post in tirade form if I didn’t think it served a necessary purpose. Kind of like when there’s a fire, it’s proper to shout “Fire!” rather than politely whispering the word.
The comment could be proven wrong. Pols also may or may not be trying to construct a narrative, but that’s hard to prove definitively. Quad was taking cheap shots, using inflammatory language and pseudo-intellecutal gobbledegook.
Better to go all angry as an anonymous poster than to keep beating the wife eh Quasimodo? Another reason Pols is an affordable psychiatric outlet.
Just the right touch of unproven conspiracy theories and piss poor writing. What a masterpiece of worthless reading. Expect a plethora of these gems come 2012.
Touche I say.
my post used that word only twice, not that it matters. Apparently you know even less about arithmetic than you do about writing. Only talentless dunderheads think words should not be used more than once in a piece of writing.
So, which are you: an unemployed wannabe third-tier political hack with too much time on their hands, or a marginally employed third-tier political hack who gets paid to shill in this forum? Pretty much everyone who posts regularly on “Pols” falls into one of those two categories.
Hopefully you will remain “missing” for a quite a bit longer, for society’s sake. You obviously have nothing of any importance or value to add to public discourse.
My guess is former.
sheesh
But who’s sampling?
And my mom thinks I’m first rate.
It takes a big brain to write something like, “fascist handmaidens to the corporate plutocracy.”
you have to admit
Like a bag lady with a thesaurus.
if you’d be more comfortable with that.
Corporate handmaidens to the fascist plutocrats. Or something.
Hey, you’re right, Punning-Missed-It. That works freakin’ awesome!
criticism with humor.
Douchian has a chance to be both a noun and a verb. The Douchian did a douchian thing. Pure poetry.
I’m confident that they are neo-conservative slaves to the international financial machine with some crypto-fascist leanings, but “fascist handmaidens to the corporate plutocracy” seems a little harsh to me.
But I stand by the revised phrasing: “Faustian douchebags.”
I wrote the post and I am the fascist handmaiden to the corporate plutocracy.
This is a big step up from college student and my neighbors on west colfax will be very impressed.
the part about being a staffer for Michael Bennet. Surely an inadvertent oversight.
and I’m pissed nobody told me about this highest bidder thing. What a jip.
Now, I’m big enough to admit the argument I made is contradictory with RBI’s poll. But at the end of the day, record low turnout= old white people voting. I’d still bet that Romer wins. I didn’t anticipate the polling would be so close, and RBI has done some fantastic, spot-on polling. And I’m not offended by your comments, the sockpuppets in the school board races are going to be much worse than you.
But don’t you dare, EVER, give Pols the credit for being a fascist handmaiden to the corporate plutocracy. I wrote this on my own, dammit, and I deserve the credit.
working as a paid staffer for Michael Bennet?
… or you’re just being a hypocrite.
My mother smelt of elderberry, my father was a hamster. My real job title is Faustian douchebag/unemployed third-tier political hack/college student/former Bennet staffer/fascist handmaiden to the corporate plutocracy.
It just wouldn’t fit on business cards.
being a complete asshole?
Long-form proof is requested.
Long form only.
about your anal fetish, Ralphie?
Sure. I’m talking to you now.
Please try harder to insult me. I love it, and you’re not capable.
with Ralphie’s rectal fixation. It only gets him more “worked up.”
but I’m sure several people can vouch for me.
Or was it the other way around?
Inquiring minds want to know, rork. Inquiring minds, I say!
The mysterious c rork’s (if that is “his” real name) history of paid stafferism to Sen. Bennet is completely relevant to a diary about polling in a municipal election. I want to know what this blogger is hiding. (Except for that so-called scar. Keep that to yourself.)
So no. jokes.
that C Rork is complaining of a supposed “jip” — he’s implying that he didn’t get anything out of the Wall Street vault that funds corporate-Dem shenanigans, whereas, in fact, that’s exactly where the money does come from to pay Bennet/Romer lackeys. Unless maybe he’s just quibbling about the dollar amounts they’ve paid him? If that’s the case, he should take it up with the banksters. They can certainly afford to give him a raise. They’ve got billions of taxpayer-funded bailout dollars set aside for just that kind of purpose.
I would be un-loving him until June if he was. Ask anyone how I feel about Romer staffers.
Besides, if he had a fat Cannonball paycheck he’d buy his own (cupcake-infused) beer from time to time, nah?
(The above is a spurious accusation based on nothing and lobbed by someone who, as a teetotaler, is completely removed from the situation referenced. I just thought I’d follow the trend of the day.)
for me being an asshole in the absence of long-form proof.
Asked you this in the other post. What do you have to say to the fact that none other than Andrea Merida herself is supporting Chris Romer? Did they buy her off too? Is Andrea Merida the new “fascist handmaiden to the corporate plutocracy?”
http://blogs.denverpost.com/th…
I think you need to check in with the mothership, dude. It looks like they’ve had a change of plans over at “Progressive Juice.”
I’ve never even met her in person. She’s entitled to her opinions, and she expresses them very well. My personal inclination is to support neither Romer nor Hancock, but there is sound reasoning behind the decision to hold one’s nose and choose one or the other candidate in this two-person race.
Differences between Ms. Merida and Pols:
– Unlike Pols, Ms. Merida is not a front group clandestinely operated by a 501(c)(4) political organization that’s integrated with nationwide astroturfing operations and accepts undisclosed corporate funding.
– She is stating her endorsement openly and transparently, where as Pols assists their chosen candidates by pretending to be neutral while actually distorting the “coverage” on this blog in favor of the candidates they support and mudslinging against candidates they oppose. There’s a word for those tactics, and that word is “shill.”
– Ms. Merida has a solid history of working hard in favor of pro-democracy principles and progressive candidates, whereas Pols has a track record of doing just the opposite. She openly states in her endorsement that she has many differences with Romer and that the endorsement is less than enthusiastic.
Please link to a post where Pols transparently discloses its support for Romer, its reasoning for that endorsement, and any overlap between Romer’s corporate funders and ProgressNow’s corporate funders. What, you can’t provide such a link? Funny thing about that, huh?
I mean, Romanoff literally paying her — cash, not a campaign donation — to campaign for him, and her not disclosing it while sitting on the school board… Well, you should realize that Merida is the A#1 example of the pay-to-play, non-transparent pol you rail against! But the 4 basement warriors on SquareShit like her, and that’s good enuf for u, right?
She didn’t “take cash for endorsing” Romanoff. She was working as a low-level staffer for his campaign, and only for a short time and not much pay. Her mistake was not explicitly disclosing that job when she wrote a pro-Romanoff op-ed in the Post. When the disclosure lapse was pointed out to her, she owned up to it and actually went above and beyond by quitting the campaign job. There had been no effort to conceal her paid-staffer role, just a regrettable oversight in not explicitly disclosing it. Also, she had made it quite clear all along that she was backing the Romanoff campaign, so there was no pretense of neutrality.
Furthermore, we know where Romanoff’s campaign money came from to pay staffers, and none of it came from corporate PACs. Can you say the same of Bennet, Romer, and ProgressNow?
You should have just said “oh” and walked away. And I should have figured this would provoke a long and incoherent response.
It’s a common trait among the mentally disturbed that they are not aware of what their mentally disturbed behavior looks like to non-mentally disturbed people. So in this regard I do pity you.
There’s really nothing more to be said. It’s apparent that you are not receptive to a rational exchange of ideas. But that’s your problem, not mine.
He needed to define this race early and aggressively if his numbers showed anything close to the same results going into the runoff.
Back in February, Romer knew he was going to go negative hard out of the gate. Last fall, even. I’m not kidding.
When you know going in that you’ve already got very high negatives yourself, your plan’s likely to include a lot of bringing the other candidate down to your level?
Name ID and fundraising seemed to be the mantra I heard around the mayor’s race until early this year, which made me think that the Romer folks were becoming concerned as time went on. I still think the biggest shock to Denver voters come June is when they realize Hickenlooper’s no longer mayor.
They think he’s doing a good job, why vote him out of the mayor’s office? 🙂
“I still think the biggest shock to Denver voters come June is when they realize Hickenlooper’s no longer mayor.”
I’m guessing weighting was done more on geographic and demographic criteria?
If you look at the percentages on who respondents voted for in the first round, the highest percent goes to Hancock, not Romer. Also, Mejia voters are very low compared to his first round showing.
More 1st round Hancock than Romer supporters would obviously tip this in Hancock’s favor…
For what it’s worth, I don’t have a dog in this fight. I voted for Mejia and am still deciding.
But these are all great questions that I hope Kevin has time address.
Not a criticism, just a comment.
It’s somewhat likely that a strong Mejia supporter or strong Linkhart supporter, say, will be less inclined to vote in the runoff. The voter universe from the first round is not exactly the same as the one for the runoff. The poll uses other methods to identify likely voters (like asking them), it doesn’t try to duplicate the May 3 electorate.
so normally (in my layman understanding) polls are weighted so you get an accurate geographic/demographic sample. In other words, if by bizarre chance they sample 80% female voters, they only consider 55% percent of them (or whatever the female vote is expected to be).
In this case, if they happened to hit an oversample of Hancock supporters vs. Romer supporters, that would skew the results.
Interesting point about Mejia and Linkhart supporters — I would imagine a chunk of them do stay out of it. Regardless, the Hancock/Romer issue is relevant.
I’ll try to get to everyone. Feel free to ask about methodology, demographic trends, or anything else you are curious about.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
I’m sure your poll is more neutrally done, but isn’t the 4-pt Hancock lead (which you find) quite possibly consistent with the 11-pt lead Hancock’s poll shows — in that if both polls have a 4-pt margin, then your finding is a 0-8 Hancock lead, while Hancock’s finding is a 7-15 pt lead? I.e., don’t your polls overlap in deeming a 7-8 point lead plausible?
Also, exactly how to internal polls tend to favor their own candidates? That is, what is it that you’d do to yield a neutral poll, while Hancock’s poll inevitably will favor Hancock, and Romer’s will favor Romer? Does each canpaign just do like 3-4 polls and publicize only the “best” one?
but I don’t think Romer’s internals favored Romer. It also depends on what kind of push they did in the Hancock poll, and whether the numbers they released were pre or post-push–although Hancock’s team says they’re running a clean campaign with no oppo, so that would preclude a push poll.
Hancock’s poll actually had a 15-point lead for Hancock, not 11. But in any event, I’d say it is very plausible that the results could fall somewhere in between the two surveys. But I’m reporting our numbers exactly as we have them because that’s where we believe the race to be at this point.
Internal polls are a waste of money if you write them to favor a candidate on the initial horserace question. Now, these surveys usually do some message testing (very different from “push polling”) which will test messages favorable to them or negative for their opponent but that is usually only tested after the initial horse race.
So obviously take internal polls with a grain of salt but they are not inherently biased if the pollster and campaign wrote the poll to be useful to the campaign. I have every reason to believe that Hancock’s survey was conducted according to the highest methodological standards and the questions were not written to be biased.
And, yes, campaigns will tend to do several surveys over the course of several months. Hancock’s survey was in the field the same dates that we were so they are releasing their first survey of the runoff race.
You’re right that negative message testing is different than push polling.
Kevin,
I allude to this above, but I was wondering about how the 1st round preference results affects the overall results.
More people you sampled said they voted for Hancock then Romer, and the percentage that said Mejia also seems low compared to the May 3rd results.
Is there data on people who said they weren’t voting who voted for Romer or Mejia 1st round or is there a problem with an oversample of 1st round Hancock voters or…?
Two things.
First, anytime you ask someone who they voted for in an election in the past, you can get some weird results. So this wasn’t a warning sign for me because of the margin of error, my past experience with getting funky results on who did you vote for questions, and that 6% refused. Those refusing could be romer voters.
Second, note that 19% of our sample did NOT vote in the first round. We reported those voters in this question so people knew what our sample looked like.
If you only narrow down to those who voted in the first round, the results look like this:
Hancock: 28%
Romer: 27%
Mejia: 22%
Linkhart: 9%
Other: 4%
DK/REFUSED/Can’t remember: 9%
The actual results were:
Romer: 28%
Hancock: 27%
Mejia: 26%
Linkhart: 10%
Other: 9%
It’s not perfect, but its pretty darn close for a survey with a 4.9% margin of error.
How did you come up with the qualifications to get a call for this poll?
Why not just ask if they voted in the general? Your universe seems pretty broad. I did notice that 92% said they were either very or somewhat likely to vote in the runoff though.
We release our qualifications for our sample universe because they matter. A lot.
Tell me if I am misunderstanding but it seems to me that when you say “voted in the general” you are referring to people who voted in the first round mayoral election, right?
Run-off elections tend to get an influx of people who didn’t vote in the first round. In the 2003 Denver mayoral run-off, it was at least 17% new voters (that is, people who didn’t vote in the first round). In the current Colorado Springs mayoral race, 14% of the ballots case so far (election is on tuesday) were by people who didn’t vote in the first round.
Our sample has 19% who did not vote in the first round.
That matters. According to our numbers, Hancock leads among first round voters. Romer leads among that 19% who didn’t vote in the first round.
This leads to part of the reason that we have different numbers than Hancock. His sample was only voters who voted in the first round. Ours includes influx voters.
I don’t claim to be absolutely sure that we pulled the right universe but we went with a universe who we thought were likely vote. If they aren’t going to vote, they will tell us so. Better to cast a big net and screen people out than go too narrow and miss a big chunk of the electorate.
Thank you for stating that explicitly. That makes a lot more sense than the theories put out there that Hancock is “cooking the numbers” or hiring fraudulent pollsters.
that doesn’t explain all of the disparity. but i wanted to give a little context to the numbers.
Hancock’s pollster is fantastic and it could be that they are right and we made the wrong assumptions.
Not sure we will ever know because the results are likely to change a lot between now and election day and these two polls are probably too far out to be predictive of election day results.
I think that definitely explains the difference, if the 19% who didn’t vote in round 1 were breaking to Romer.
What insights do the differences in the two candidates favorables/unfavorables give you as to how the remainder of this campaign is likely to be pursued?
And that is reflected in these results.
Hancock’s message is very much based around a personal story and making an emotional connection with voters. It’s working. His favorables have jumped 42% in just a few weeks. We’ve seen much less about his record as a councilman than we have about his personal background and story.
Romer’s message is much more issue focused and focuses on his record as a legislator. So while Romer’s negatives are definitely higher than Hancock’s he does still hold an advantage in terms of who people think will be better on the number one issue in this election: jobs. Voters think Romer will do better on jobs by a 37% to 30% margin.
Now, you are seeing Romer trying to cut into those high favorables by bringing attention to Hancock’s record (i.e. choice, pay raise, etc.) because he feels that is a dynamic in which he will fare much better than on personal feelings towards the candidates.
What do you expect turnout to be in the runoff? And do you think people will be waiting to turn in their ballots like they did in round 1? If turnout comes in quicker, the likelihood of shifting these numbers goes down.
But in Colorado Springs, which is also all mail in and is currently in a runoff, ballots are coming in faster than in the first round. Probably because it is easier for folks to make a decision between two candidates.
As far a guessing turnout, I won’t make a guess because I think the tone that the race takes in the next few days will have an affect on turnout.
Plus, I don’t want my pride hurt again. Tyler Chafee from my office predicted a turnout of 114k in the first round and I said 110k. Props to Tyler but I’m not sure I can take that kind of schooling again… 😉
Fair enough. Thanks for your time Kevin.
Not a single question about our starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos question. 🙂
since he’s the candidate with all the plans and ideas. Now, your poll suggests he’s not the shoe-in to get to decide . . . ;~)
As always, great questions. Hope I answered everything.
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Until next time!
I’m very impressed that Kevin Ingham was here answering questions – that’s politics at its best
Not crazy about all the Romer love coming from CPols, but outside of that, this thread is an excellent example of great citizenry politics
Bravo CPols and RBI!!!