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October 15, 2010 06:49 AM UTC
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Buck created the system that allows Colorado to prosecute and convict more rape cases than before he took the helm in Weld County. Bottom line, Ken Buck is tough on crime and puts rapists in jail every time it is possible.
Is it any wonder that crime has dropped by 50% in Weld County? Not with Buck calling the shots!
…Every right wing troll comes out of the woodwork. About four hours prematurely.
http://www.denverpost.com/elec…
Alleged victim says anger at Buck’s words led her to speak out before election
Hey Beej, do you think your post could have been:
1. More over the top, or
2. More wrong?
Not so “fired up” after flotus was here stumping for rubberstampman? I guess it is kinda hard to swallow it when you try so hard to smear someone’s character and then it is exposed as far from true. The funny thing is she blasted your negative campaiging as the reason she came forward. Also notice how she is a proud and strong woman! She even gave her name, and it is not a political hit piece, unlike the dem attempts at smears.
So I will ask? What is over the top and what is wrong with it?
You stick with your “positive” post about her royalness, while we go win this election with a positive message of how Ken Buck is the strong leader to fix the messes created by th democrats.
Laura Bush was in town? I didn’t know GW was running for something in Colorado. The President who went six years without a veto would be rubberstampman.
I am starting to appreciate
that there is a large segment
of Americans with stunted
intellectual development.
They are unable to distinguish
opinion from reporting.
They have made Faux Nooze
a success story to rival
Camelot.
their goal is to keep ignorance alive and judging by some of the comments by the bagger trolls on here they must be doing a good job at spreading their stupidity.
We are making our voices heard! You and your candidates will no longer ignore us. The true democrats will remember these next elections and point to them as for a reason to never let the far left wackos grab the reins of the party!
The Koch brothers thank you for your support.
We are fighting for all the people in America. Your party represents a failed model of government. The same model has spread nothing but misery throughout the world and throughout time.
Our beliefs, which are the same beliefs our country was founded on, have the best chance of making the most people benefit. It has been proven time after time!
At what point will the democrats stop punishing both current and future generations?
The democrats seek to make perceived enemies out of everybody they disagree with. Ask yourself since when does the rich only succeed when the poor fail, or the rich fail when the poor succeed?
This is what you wrote:
Our country was founded on the beliefs that blacks were three fifths a person. Our country was founded on the belief that women and blacks didn’t deserve the right to vote.
Are these truly your beliefs? Is this really how you want to run our country in 2010 and into the future?
Now I can see why so many think uber-conservative TeaPublicans are racist sexists. I can see why you would support someone like Buck.
Our country was not founded on the belief blacks were three fifths a person.
At the time in certain states they were treated as property, bought and sold. Somewhat different than the white indentured servant types, but not so different in other ways. That treatment of people still goes on today in parts of the world.
The core beliefs our country was founded on involve freedom and liberty, albeit at the time, limited to certain parts of society.
Today’s patriots cherish those values. To the democrats/socialists those values conflict with their view of the supremacy of the centralized state. That is what many of us see as the real choice in this election.
“Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man’s own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came.
This is putting the matter on a general principle, and perhaps it is best to do so; for if we examine the case minutely it will be found that the accumulation of personal property is, in many instances, the effect of paying too little for the labor that produced it; the consequence of which is that the working hand perishes in old age, and the employer abounds in affluence.
It is, perhaps, impossible to proportion exactly the price of labor to the profits it produces; and it will also be said, as an apology for the injustice, that were a workman to receive an increase of wages daily he would not save it against old age, nor be much better for it in the interim. Make, then, society the treasurer to guard it for him in a common fund; for it is no reason that, because he might not make a good use of it for himself, another should take it.”
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“And therefore it is to the good of the whole, as well as to the interest of the individual, that every one, who can, sets himself down to his business, and contributes his quota of taxes as one of the first duties he owes to his family, to himself, and to his country.”
I hadn’t read that before. Paine was wonderful.
Read the fucking constitution, you moron.
Slavery existed at the time of the constitution. Get over it.
That is not what the document is all about.
Nobody said that is “what the document is all about.”
You’re a moron.
Is that the statement I quoted struck me as “hey our belief system is the exact same one our founders had well over 2 centuries ago. Our beliefs have in no way been influenced by things like science, empirical evidence, changing demographics, etc”.
That seems beyond conservative. Hence my comment that the Founders believed it was perfectly legal and moral to own other human beings. The Founders believed women had no place in the voting booth. The Founders believed the people shouldn’t vote for their own Senators.
Ironically, the Founders knew they weren’t perfect and wrote the Constitution with that in mind; I have yet to see that kind of humility in TeaPublicans like bj and this No2Dems character.
I really liked your incorrect and/or ignorant usage of “socialist” thrown in there. Not sure why people keep using it on this particular site. Unless you’re hoping to convince some Republicans to vote for Republicans by using it as an insult?? Most of the Dems or lean-Dems on here know the actual definition of Socialism. It’s ridiculous to keep doing it. Are you hoping Beej (or the newer shills) will look up to you for calling us socialists? It doesn’t actually bother me as I don’t see “socialism” as a horrible evil enemy. I look at Denmark’s Welfare State as an interesting case study on government systems. The U.K. also seems to have worked out a great Welfare State combining the best of Capitalism and the best of Socialism. With that system of providing healthcare and our second to none doctors, nurses and technology we would quickly have the “best system in the world” that conservatives falsely claim we have now.
So feel free to “insult” me by throwing socialist out there.
I don’t know where you learned about this non-sense and got this twisted position? Folks this is seriously the type of people who support Obama and Bennet. This is the type of deranged thinking we are up against!
are they in your head ?
Well, the one I hope to see around in seven months.
Nothing more than name calling. Intellectually and emotionally bankrupt.
who thinks “dictator Barry” is an edifying addition to the conversation?
Is that another personal attack on me? Do you disagree with my statement? If so why?
It’s sad, really.
You come in here, flapping and cooing loudly, shitting all over everything, then flying away. That’s not presenting an argument, contrary to what your coddled existence led you to believe, so there’s nothing to answer.
It’s what passes for debate on O’Reilly.
and then we have two of them.
Count your blessings.
The countdown being to Pols’ update/correction/retraction. How long will it take them?
I’m glad this young woman got justice. She deserved it.
And so did another young woman who was drunk and scared and calling what she thought were her friends to come over and help her. And instead of helping her, one of them raped her.
She deserved justice too. And instead of helping her pursue justice, Ken Buck told the Greeley Tribune, where everybody could read it, that she had ‘buyers remorse.’
Twice.
And that’s the difference.
Buck told her, in so many words, that she asked for it.
Victims deserve justice! Not cases where there is no evidence to constitute probable cause for arrest or reasonable doubt for conviction.
What do you democrats know or see in this case that Ken Buck missed, Mary Lacy missed, the Greeley P.D. Chief missed, and the GPD investigators missed? Are you using your special democrat decoder to somehow find Invisible evidence of this crime or what? Because if you guys know something please come forward and present it, but if not just shut your mouths and go back to world of Warcraft. You know nothing about criminal prosecutions or investigations so quit pretending. This stuff of things are the way we say they are just because we say it is does not fly anymore.
You guys have nothing more than weak desperate attempts left. Just do us all a favor go in your basement lock the door and never come out.
He treats her like shit in that interview. Twice he interjects his own opinion that she invited her former boyfriend to her apartment for sex. And having had an abortion? Huh? What’s that got to do with whether she was raped? Nothing. But apparently Buck thinks it does.
I’m not saying he could or couldn’t have gotten a conviction. I don’t know and neither do you.
Beej thinks she deserved it. Just look back at his comments over the past couple of days.
Lets hear the tape! Or do you want to solely rely off the doctored and inaccurate transcript?
Oh I know only pay attention to what you dems want us to pay attention to right?
But has anyone said the transcript is inaccurate (other than you)?
You got nothin’
at your premature claims here. Good lord, you’re so lame at this stuff.
That’s how long it took, albeit a bit backhandedly in order to save face.
Is that the great math wiz’s reckoning? One day? LOL.
One, you posted this late last night. Pols is typically not active as a poster/commenter outside normal business hours. So your timing is the equivalent of a Friday afternoon news dump.
Two, JeffcoBlue’s response came a mere 10 hours, 17 minutes later. That’s not “one day,” math boy.
I predict your response will either be nothing at all, or will be a lame dismissive comment that doesn’t address these facts at all.
A) I meant that in the sense that yesterday was Thursday, today is Friday. Whatever. My point was actually meant to be that they were they were forced to acknowledge their error very quickly.
B) I wasn’t referring to anything written by JeffcoBlue, unless that happens to be the secret identity of ColoradoPols.
You really think Pols wasn’t going to post a diary about this if you hadn’t done your diary? LOL.
Further, you accused DEMS of crickets. Well, you quickly assumed no one would respond and crowed about it at one in the morning, when the rest of us were in bed. Too bad there was already a new story at the Post and JeffcoBlue (guess what his party affiliation is) posted it this morning, well within any reasonable time frame for a response. So was Pols’ eventual diary.
There were articles about it everywhere. It was a BFD.
There were plenty of people posting on other threads last night who I’m sure read it but didn’t want to give the story legs. Today of course they can’t ignore it because it’s news.
I would not be nearly as nice to trolls like your as the Guvs are.
Frankly, the Guvs amaze me with their tolerance for your incessant juvenile shit talk (see: this post).
Yikes comparing rape survivors opinions as apples and oranges and completely discrediting one of them is pretty bad.
Let’s see: different circumstances, different facts, and lack of miscarriage. OK the similarity ends.
So what you are saying is only listen to the alleged victim who hates Buck? Why is that because it fits your twisted perception of a good man?
Why do you ignore a strong woman who came forward, gave her name, and gave her story? Is it because you don’t like the fact that she presets a true description of what Ken Buck will be like as our Senator?
I am so tired of the democrats playing the game of pay attention to what we tell you to and ignore what we tell you to.
Ms. Corban’s story and statement is quite compelling. She is a profile of courage and an advocate for sex assault survivors and women everywhere!
Compare that to the other story, which consists of an anonymous person making inflamatory statements that the left parade around as facts.
unless you are Ken Buck, you don’t know who the true person is either. You have a perception of a man whom you would like to be Senator.
People aren’t ignoring Ms. Corban’s statement. Her case is different than the other one and not comparable. If you believe it is, fine. Compare away.
Be fair – BOTH sides play the game of cherry picking information to spread(I think that is what you were trying to say). It’s the campaign game. If you think it is just Dems, I’m sure others on this site, those with more patience and time on their hands than me, would be happy to link the many examples of how Republicans have utilized this technique in the past.
Since Ms. Corban was a victim of a brutal rape her opinion of Ken Buck does not matter? No you ignore her opinion because it does not fit into your deranged perception of Buck.
Their cases are different, yes, but you use the words of the unnamed alleged victim in an attempt to portray Buck as “pro-rapist, and anti-woman.” Ms. Corban came forward and voiced her strong support as both a sex assault survivor and a woman and you are trying to discredit it.
Are you Democrats that desperate that you are trying to discredit a sex assault survivor’s opinion and story? Everybody should hear Ms. Corban’s story and opinion. She is the definition of courage and a strong woman. Read this and tell me her story does not matter.
http://fightforjustice.blogspo…
Link to any comment anyone said at anytime stating that Buck was “pro-rapist” or be called out for being completely full of shit.
He gives rapists more rights than the victims. He allows rapists to procreate to their hearts content and forces the women to just deal with it.
So in this one aspect, Buck absolutely IS pro-rapist and anti-women.
http://www.coloradopols.com/sh…
http://www.coloradopols.com/sh…
PWN’d
Try paying attention. Once again, you should work on your reading comprehension skills.
Idiot.
Oh Beej, you REALLY should have waited for the print edition.
http://www.denverpost.com/elec…
Funny how your deflection never made it to the newsroom. must have had some kind of credibility problem…much like yourself…
What Buck told the Denver paper:
What Buck said to the woman:
Buck told the woman he thought she was making the story up. He expresses his own opinion TWICE on the matter.
(To quote him):
Crickets.
If you’re going to dabble in politics and back your guy, this is the game.
Like it or don’t, this is the game.
Learning the rules of the game sucks for newbies, but your decrying false rumors, hyped attempts and ruined reputations doesn’t change the rules.
Both sides do it, both sides play it – it’s the game.
Don’t like it – than get the f*** out of the fire. Still want to play – then stop whining about the rules and play.
Oh we know the rules don’t worry sweetheart. Democrats win elections based on two reasons. Deception and because we let you.
Your party is intellectually bankrupt and you no longer choose to debate over beliefs and ideas because you realize that yourself are failures and it is a losing battle. There is proof of your failures all over the world, throughout time, and in our backyard with the failing liberal states of California and New York.
So that is why your party is reduced to personal attacks. Which is a sad a desperate way to try and win an election.
This election is different. You are frustrated because we have out organized you and we will not let you win this election. We will expose your deceptions for the slanderous falsehoods that they are and march our way to taking our country back.
You’re making a very broad statement about me, which conversely show me more about you than you know about me.
Many Dems on this site would argue the same words about the Republicans.
If you want to come on here and throw bombs like this, have fun. Personally it annoys me that this site devolves into this crap every year around election time, but I’m just one poster.
If you want to be taken seriously, than play the game, which is fight back using arguments, not rhetoric best used for people with low IQs and short attention spans…
Your choice.
Remember those phone calls that topedoed McCain in SC?
That’s the start of a very long list.
Get over yourself. You lost big the last two cycles because your party is morally and intellectually bankrupt. Trust me…the Republican Party did not “let” anyone win.
I’d tell you to can the arrogance but truthfully, it’s really helpful to Dems when you all are so obsessed with measuring the drapes you aren’t taking the time to actually focus on elections.
And hate to tell you this one, buttercup, but Republicans invented the personal attack.
And what kind of Party tries to make it’s case by putting down two of the biggest states in the union? Bashing California and New York? Really? That’s your schtick? Lame.
I have more integrity.
political campaigns are run like this. You may not realize this because you’re young, angry, idealistic and looking for a fight.
The political landscape is littered with ruined reputations, blown opportunities and gourgous gaffes that have laid waste good men and women.
This is how BOTH parties play, and if you think differently, your integrity is coated with a thick layer of naivite.
With people like who you think that politics is only about ruining reputations, blowing up opportunities, and inventing gaffes with trackers, it’s no wonder our country is in the shape that it’s in.
Political campaigns run like this. If you haven’t noticed it is going on all over the country right now and not just in Colorado’s senate campaign.
Politics isn’t pretty and sweet and nice, BJ. I don’t know if you think it should be or not, but trust me, it isn’t. I wish it were otherwise, maybe then BOTH parties would STFU and get down to the business of governing, but it isn’t/hasn’t been/ and probably won’t be in my lifetime.
I work in politics everyday, it’s my job. Politics is about the art of possibility. Campaigns are about getting elected.
Our country is in the shape it is because of a large number of factors – not because a bunch of bloggers in Colorado are talking bad about your guy.
If beej had ever cracked open a real history book (and no, beejster, most high school textbooks are way too sanitized to count as “real”), he’d know how dirty politics have ALWAYS been.
If Buck really thought the GOP was part of the problem, he’d run as a third party candidate. He’s just telling beej and his boys what they want to hear.
Buck made no bones, and still makes no bones, about running against the Republican establishment.
Your screen name is more offensive to women than anything Buck every said.
Now if I went around telling everyone to give me a “blowjob,” I could see how you’d conclude possible sexism.
which is pretty much the same thing.
as you watch your beloved teabaggers either falter in their more earnest efforts (which the GOP will oppose because the kingmakers are still firmly in the driver’s seat) or else just join the machine and be the same as the leaders you think have gone away. However I know you’ll slink away when the truth becomes apparent, like many wingnuts before you.
I saw it with the Contract On America, and should your wet dream come true I’ll see it again. Knowing it will happen again, and seeing the sad, sad faces of bitterly disappointed wingnuts will make it all worthwhile. 😀
Tea Party efforts are in earnest, and not astroturf. You should consider joining them if you oppose the GOP kingmakers. It’s either that, or become an irrelevant footnote in the annals of history. It will not happen again. The old guard GOP is dead.
Where did Boehner go? Your precious “Tea Party” which is neither new nor grassroots isn’t in a position to do shit about the leadership on the slim chance they win a few seats in either House.
Try living in this reality. The absolute best chance you have is IF the Republicans inexplicably can control of the Senate, and IF they inexplicably vote for Demint, and IF he inexplicably does something other than what he’s been doing for years leading up to election season.
So explain to me how your Republican Teabagging Club is going to change the leadership?
Some of your guys are earnest, like Dan Maes. I think Sarah Palin was earnest once, too, but she sold out in record time, resigning the job to which she was elected in order to cash in and try to become a power player herself.
I remember the 90s, beej, and saw how quickly the Class of 94 became part of the machine. Any freshman ‘pub that makes it this time is destined for the same thing.
So you admit you’re a dirtbag who destroys people’s lives for a living. Explains a lot.
I tried.
You’ve made general statements and I tried to engage you in a constructive way against my better judgement. I didn’t attack you, you attacked first.
Good luck with whatever the fuck the you’re doing here.
If your blogging skills are on par with your political skills, you’re probably in the right profession.
You haven’t seen Republicans bring up Bennet’s dirt. They’ve stuck to attacking him on his record of votes.
When Kerry ran against George W for President, the campaign could have hit GW with all kinds of ammo, yet didn’t. It sat back and took blow after blow from the swiftboat veterans. Why? Who the f*** knows, not me.
Next election cycle the Republicans are going to play dirty pool, this election cycle it’s the Dems. Why? Who the f*** knows.
You this angery, always taking it personally, it’s going to drive you to drink.
Trust me.
Oh come on now, Car, you just admitted you work in politics. Don’t pretend your so naive as to not understand why campaigns run negative ads. They do it when they’re losing. Ha!
Take a look back at your conversation with Car31. Here’s someone who, inexplicably, tried to have a grownup conversation with you about politics. See if you can figure out where it went wrong.
Bennet may lose. Campaigns run negative ads when they’re losing (and because negative ads are more effective than feel good ads).
You’re throwing bombs on a left leaning blog and you’re not going to convince anyone here that you’re right.
You could argue your case well and score points that way, but you refuse to do so.
If that’s what floats your boat, more power to you.
I’m done.
I obviously just did score points by arguing my case, according to the title of your post.
because he really really really wants to get elected.
And neither do the rest of the people attacking him. If you knew him and his family, you would know what an honorable man he is.
which tells me he’s a liar who will say anything to get elected.
Maybe he doesn’t just tell his kids anything they want to hear to get a little bit more popular. Maybe he doesn’t lie to his wife all the time. But I haven’t seen any evidence of that.
The people in his community loved him as D.A. He cleaned up the county and won re-election in a landslide.
until people actually found out things about her. Then her approval rating (even in that state) dropped from 80% to 40%.
It’s the problem with not having any investigative reporters in your local media market: nobody really finds out anything about the character of your politicians until something blows up.
has been a federal prosecutor, who worked on the Iran-Contra case. It’s not like he’s an unknown.
Oh the stories my Poppy would tell by the fireside of Ken Buck. He was my hero. I even had the door poster of Prosecutor Buck!
If people in his community loved him soooo much and re-elected him time and time again, he should have just stayed there.
We’d all be happier.
Some people were a bit upset that he’s leaving, but the people of Weld county understand.
This diary has more comments than any other diary today. Wanna promote it? /snicker
This is my last comment on your ridiculous untruth laden excuse for a diary. If you want to argue with me, do it in a post based in reality.
this “diary” is as accurate as the germans bombing pearl harbor. George Washington led British forces in 1777 or Richard Nixon never resigned the presidency.
deflective spinning clap trap of the worst kind…
Call fox
newspropaganda they might like it’s content.and they didn’t mention abortion or the secret victim of rape whose case could not be proved. Seems outside of Colorado Pols those issues are not all that important.
http://chieftain.com/opinion/e…
…waiting on the Denver Post. You would think they would have endorsed by now.
Let the whining begin.
Their loss. It’s not like people around here think the Ghost is important or anything. /snark
I think you have time to write a few more.