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October 04, 2010 06:52 PM UTC

Tell Us How You Really Feel, "Dr. Evil"

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  • by: Colorado Pols

When is candor not a good thing? When a leading proponent of Amendments 60, 61 and Proposition 101–collectively known as the “Dr. Evil initiatives” or the “Bad 3”–decides to tell the world what he really hopes will happen. The AP’s Steven Paulson reports:

Gregory Golyansky, vice president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, told students and professors from the University of Colorado Denver on Friday that printed books are going away and light rail is 19th century technology.

“Do we really need to fill our prisons with nonviolent offenders, drug offenders, prostitutes and what not? We will have about two-thirds less people in our prisons. Government doesn’t need to be involved in building golf courses or exercise facilities or ice rinks. Libraries are going away. Paper books are the yesterday technology, being replaced by online information. Government should stop subsidizing things like light rail. It’s essentially a 19th century technology,” Golyansky said.

Natalie Menten said Friday she is the campaign spokeswoman and Golyansky doesn’t speak for the campaign, even though he has appeared on their behalf at a half dozen interviews and televised debates over the past few months. She did not return phone calls seeking further comment.

“His personal opinions are repugnant to our campaign. His political views are unrelated to the three ballot issues. He is anti-books, anti-transit, anti-prison; we disagree with him on all three,” she said…

Natalie Menten’s biggest problem here is not the uncomfortable frankness of Gregory Golyansky. She can bemoan how ‘repugnant’ Golyansky’s views are, but she has a much harder problem explaining how these initiatives do not directly service Golyansky’s nutty goals. Because, as virtually every elected official and government agency in the state is sounding the alarm about, what Golyansky wants is what these initiatives work towards.

All Golyansky did was spell it out–he’s done the people of Colorado a great service.

And we’re loath to mention it, but this wouldn’t be the same Greg Golyansky who Ken Buck risked his career to slip helpful information to as a federal prosecutor, when Golyansky was facing gun charges–would it? Say what you want about Golyansky, but he’s certainly more plugged in to conservative politics than Jane Norton let on this summer, while using Golyansky’s gun case against Buck, and representing Golyansky as a gun-peddling thug. And that explains a lot.

We suppose Buck doesn’t want the libraries to ‘go away’ either, but who knows? Perhaps somebody ought to ask, just to make sure–despite the fact that it’s virtually impossible to say what the answer would have been before the primary.

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59 thoughts on “Tell Us How You Really Feel, “Dr. Evil”

  1. I suppose once taxes are eliminated, churches and community groups will be able to house criminals in jails (after they’re done building libraries and light rail systems).

    1. The problem here is the Democrat’s 6 year overreach … TAXES AND FEES and now we have 10%+ unemployement.

      Its no wonder these very fiscally conservative people went to the ballot – you forced them into a corner with the radical spending policies. You can’t even blame Bruce for these.

      So thanks Democrats for making the business community spend $6-10 million dollars to cover for your mistakes.

      $6-10million that’s not going to job creation or investment, way to go Democrats!

          1. Umm. It’s helping pay Adam Schrager’s salary, which allows him to stay on the political beat doing analysis instead of the much cheaper chasing-the-police-car beat. It helps pay for local print shops — you can’t outsource that, either. No, it’s not long-term spending, but it’s not like that money won’t find its way through the regional economy a few times.

      1. You’re right that this money could be much better spent growing businesses which would create more permanent jobs.

        You’re wrong that this was forced on anyone. Doug Bruce & Co. can run for the legislature and/or lobby for the changes they want. The bottom line is the people of Colorado don’t want Doug or what he’s peddling.

        The state and local governments are not perfect. Some people are overpaid, some positions are overstaffed, some employees are marginally competent. But that’s the human condition, we get the same thing in the private sphere.

        We constantly need to work to improve government. We need to best allocate our public spending. We need to watch carefully how much goes to the public sector.

        But our big problem today is not too much money going to the state and local government (except possibly Boulder – some of the stuff they fund here is nuts).

  2. They’ll never take responsibility for their Golyanskys, or what their bullshit campaign rhetoric actually MEANS (Golyansky explains it better), but if I didn’t immediately take to the streets with torches when I saw the ACORN video, I might as well have been helping prostitutes myself.

    Just another reason I sleep well at night.

  3. Was just in the nick of time! I wonder how long it takes before video from when Buck did have opinions on state initiatives is going to surface? He’s already screwed himself hopelessly on personhood, can the Bad Three be far behind?

  4. is good.  It reverses the Colorado Supreme Court’s 4-3 opinion that freezing property tax rates is not a tax increase.  Even Treasurer Kennedy admitted under oath that it was a tax increase.  When the lefties on the supreme court make lefty decisions, voters ought to reverse them.

      1. for the lefty Colorado Supreme Court to make decisions that violating TABOR is okay. Amendment 60 is simply a reaction to a leftist court, and a reaction to the leftist legislature.  If you don’t want more things put in the constitution, talk to your leftist friends.

        In fact, it is decisions like the property tax increase that are making Clear the Bench Colorado so popular.

              1. goes for health insurance.

                And thankfully I get no dividend checks, because their value would have tanked a couple of years ago, and I would have been too scared shitless to re-invest. Also, I would have learned that my investment was not going toward building healthy businesses but into the Wall Street Casino, so I would have stayed out of the market anyway.

                And yes, for the rewards I receive from government assisted programs and projects, and for the future governmental projects we need to fund, I feel I pay too few taxes. And so do you. We live in one of the most undertaxed states in the most undertaxed developed nation in the world.

                1. Let me guess: it went something like this.

                  Dear Socialist,

                  Socialist socialist, socialist socialist. Socialist! Socialist (socialist socialist), socialist: socialist? Socialist! SOCIALIST! SOCIALIST SOCIALIST!!!

                  Sincerely,

                  marilou

        1. and interpreted TABOR.

          If you have some legal background, you’re welcome to explain why this, or any, ruling was a travesty of justice, but you’ll have to keep it academic and on topic. Can you do that? No answer will be taken as a “No.”

          1. was found unconstitutional in district court.  Even the lefty treasurer Kennedy said it increases taxes. When it got to the liberal supreme court, the lower court’s decision was overturned 4 – 3.  That’s why we have to Clear the Bench Colorado! And that’s why Amendment 60 is important.

            And Aristotle, you may not tell me what I can comment on nor can you dictate the quality and topic of my comments. You libs try to control everyone, don’t you?

            1. And Aristotle, you may not tell me what I can comment on nor can you dictate the quality and topic of my comments. You libs try to control everyone, don’t you?

              And where did I do that exactly? Copy and paste the exact words where I did, if you can.

              Oh wait, it was where I requested that your comment adhere to some standards. Damn my oppression!

              Hey, you’re the one who wants to take away a woman’s right to choose. THAT is government control and a threat to freedom. But nice attempt to accuse the champions of liberty (liberals) of this.

                1. When my property is reassessed at a higher value, I pay more property tax on it. You seem to think that requires a TABOR vote.

                  WHen I got a raise in income, I paid more income tax – why didn’t that also require a TABOR vote?

                  1. go study the constitution of Colorado.  Especially, pay some attention to TABOR. You have virtually no understanding of the Democrats’ unconstitutional property tax freeze.  

        2. by the very people you claim are so angry. And not only are they elected, they are continuously re-elected. In fact, the election directly following the mill-levy freeze saw a landslide victory for those “lefties”. If you don’t like the judges that were appointed by ELECTED governors, then move somewhere that is more conservative. Colorado obviously is not the place for you!  

    1. each one contains excellent fiscal policy, yet together they are too much at one time. There are 10 years of great tax policy within these three measures.

      You’re dead on with the fact that 60 fixes the unconstiutional court-bated tax hike. I just hope the proponaqnts return next year and the year after and the year after that with incremental approaches.

      1. Amendment 61 honestly would stop state government in its tracks.  The state borrows with instruments called “COPS” (certificates of participation).  They must be fully repaid at the end of each fiscal year, and generally, the state makes money on them. The state borrows at tax-free rates and invests at taxable rates.  

        Borrowing is required because expenses are fixed but tax receipts do not come in at a fixed rate to cover expenditures.

        I will vote FOR 60 but NO on 61.  

        Isn’t 101 incremental?  Since it is a proposition and not an amendment, it can be altered by the legislature.  So, unless I learn something different, I am voting for 101. That will send the Democrats a message.

        1. The decrease in state income tax will be in statute but will be untouchable without another ballot initiative. The legislature WILL be able to increase the car registration fee back to current levels, however.

  5. In reality, the “bad 3” would let out a lot more than two thirds–more like 100%–of current inmates, violent and not.

    But it’s not wrong to support alternative corrections options for non-violent offenses. There are many people in prison now at a net cost to society who could be rehabilitated in their own communities while working and paying taxes and providing a net benefit to Colorado.  

    1. I’m not sure the guy belonged in jail. Of course, it’s a self-serving attempt (of, by and for Golyanski) and he may be a sleeze, but if two DAs couldn’t make a case, he shouldn’t have been convicted at the felony level. His is a nice balance to Norton’s, Penry’s and Strickland’s self-service, too.

      Anyway, Cowgirl, I’m posting these comments here because it gives me a chance to acknowledge your concern about Colorado’s prison industry and your support of criminal justice reform, a citizen’s thanks, so to speak.

      1. I was just commenting about how he tries to frame himself as an everyday guy when in fact he is pretty well connected and plays the game himself.  Either way I still think what Jane Norton did with this issue is disgusting.

        1. for putting this video up. I had been unfamiliar with the episode, and his video, at least, recounted some of the issues, if only from his perspective. I, in no way, could feel sympathy for him, considering his record of stubborn, mean assaults on our institutions for his obviously anarchistic purposes. How anyone could ally himself with this guy is beyond comprehension.

      1. As the Denver Post mentioned yesterday, 102 is just an effort to enrich bail bondsmen. Monitoring programs allow people awaiting trial to keep contributing to their communities, with much more supervision than they’d get after posting a bail bond.

        1. This guy claims the US Government is comparable to that of the Soviet Union. He thinks neighborhoods should just pool their money and pay for roads themselves. He thinks the City of Denver should close down their city golf courses even though they operate at a profit and bring in more city revenue than they would if they were privately operated. And he thinks that promoting charter schools and school vounchers will somehow alleviate the state’s constitutional obligation to increase K-12 funding each year (the state still pays for the vouchers!). The people running these initiatives are absolutely clueless when it comes to state fiscal policy.  

            1. Because he’s the face of their campaign. He’s the guy they keep throwing out to the media to promote these initiatives. And since I oppose these 3 measures, I hope he keeps saying crazy things that get quoted in papers across the country.

              Although, I don’t like people/organizations that claim to be fiscal experts (i.e. CO Union of Taxpayers) but can’t answer a simple question like how these will interact with Amendment 23.  

                1. I’d say Prop 101 is the least impactful. Other than the income tax reduction (which is pretty significant but probably won’t kick in for quite a while) the others tax decreases in 101 are less impactful. It’s been established that the legislature can increase the car registration fee, and since 101 is only statutory it will not be difficult for the legislature to reverse that component of it. And they likely would no matter who has the majority.  

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