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Rasmussen Gubernatorial Poll Shows Demoralized Partisans, Hick on Top

by: Colorado Pols

Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 15:19:19 PM MDT


GOP-leaning pollster Rasmussen Reports' poll of the Colorado gubernatorial race today:

The latest Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey of Likely Voters finds Democrat John Hickenlooper, the mayor of Denver, with 36% support. Republican Dan Maes captures 24% of the vote while Tom Tancredo trails with 14%. Support for both Hickenlooper and Maes is down seven percentage points from two weeks ago while Tancredo's support is down four points.

Six percent (6%) of Colorado voters prefer some other candidate and twenty percent (20%) are undecided. The undecideds are up fifteen points from earlier in the month.  Twenty-four percent (24%) of Republicans are undecided along with 14% of Democrats and 21% of unaffiliated voters.

The prevalent feeling on this poll in most media is that "all three candidates" have "lost support," and surficially that's the case--Rasmussen's poll two weeks ago had John Hickenlooper at 43%, Dan Maes at 31%, and Tom Tancredo at 18%, a consistent decline obviously more attributable to greater indecision among surveyed voters than it is any one candidate peeling support from another. Maes would really prefer to see those Tancredo supporters moving into his column instead of 'undecided,' but it's reasonable to assume that few of those voters would ever support Hickenlooper. Hick, in turn, could be seeing signs of apathy from his own base in these poll results, as he arguably hasn't done much to motivate core Democratic voters.

In both cases, you can spot dynamics at work pointing to undermotivated partisans: Hickenlooper's base Democrats unenthusiastic about his centrist message, and Republicans with very little chance of a successful outcome regardless of who they choose--and who don't know which way to turn.

But there is one big difference between the three candidates as polled here that you can't miss or downplay. We've come back to it again and again, both in terms of gleaning useful information from early polls, and why Democrats aren't worried about Hickenlooper in general: apathetic base or no.

Hickenlooper is viewed Very Favorably by 29% of voters in the state and Very Unfavorably by 18%.

For Maes, Very Favorables are 7% and Very Unfavorables are 17%.
Ten percent (10%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Tancredo, but 35% view him Very Unfavorably.

Hickenlooper's durable likability is what most observers believe will carry him when few other factors are seemingly in his favor: despite furious attempts to link Hickenlooper to the slate of issues Republicans believe are lethal to Democrats, it's just not sticking--and not merely because Hickenlooper is depriving them ammunition by running to the center. People resiliently like the guy, and as that affable image contrasts against the raging Tancredo and clueless Maes in the coming weeks, this race moves closer to what remains its basically inevitable conclusion.  

Colorado Pols :: Rasmussen Gubernatorial Poll Shows Demoralized Partisans, Hick on Top
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Magellan Poll
The same GOP pollster who had Ryan Frazier with a one point lead has Hick in a landslide.
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...

centrist???
But Caplis says that Hick is a radical leftist.  I'm so confused.

Of course he is
HickUNlooper
Only a lefty would support bicycles.

Righties support Historic Motorcycles at The Reagan Library
or maybe bicycles also Touring Ronald Reagan Library

Now, I am confused. Are bikes only for commies or not?


[ Parent ]
To Caplis, anyone left of him (read: virtually everyone) is a radical leftist
He's such a smarmy tool, too.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

[ Parent ]
$25


This is serious, you commie dolt  --davebarnes, 2012.

Perhaps the populace is starting to pay attention
And the answer to "are you likely to vote in November" is coming back more often as a "yes," from people who really haven't been paying close attention.

Given the polarized debate for the past year or so, this seems right to me.  A lot of people who have been intentionally tuning it out are starting to pay attention.


That always happens
Around Labor Day. The difference this year is tea party types have been engaged already.  

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

[ Parent ]
20% undecided. Really?
It's not likely that 3 weeks ago 5% of voters were undecided and now 20% are undecided. This looks more like a change in question wording than anything else, but Rasmussen won't show us the actual question wording on their head to heads. It's easy to claim that Rasmussen is Republican leaning, but this is really just another example of questionable polling methodology.  

Reserve your moving truck and list your house now. If Maes wins,
there will be an exodus that sets Colorado back a generation or two.

I guess the same could be said for 60 & 61.

R's: where can we move with lower taxes and better run gov't?

D's: where can we move with more jobs, better funded schools a similar cost of living, climate and recreational friendly?


Wyoming.
It's not that far.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

[ Parent ]
Life is good in Wyoming because a big
severance tax  pays for lots of services.

[ Parent ]
That wasn't
one of MADCO's criteria, but don't everyone move at once.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

[ Parent ]
Actually, I was thinking of going to Alaska.
You know, where the severance tax on one segment of the economy - extraction of oil and gas - is so big that everyone gets a check .


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Sadly, the analysis is here is fairly accurate.
However, the high unfavorables on Tancredo will either convince him to drop out, or else no one will vote for him. And the conclusion is far from inevitable; a large number of voters are undecided (even if they have a nominal preference at this point) and a lot of it will come down to the debates. Maes will probably do at least as well as the Looper in them - he's a likeable guy. That, combined with the prevailing anti-incumbent wave could still put Maes over the top.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

Student of History. Mathematician.
Unicorn lover.  

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
I know, right?
ColoradoPols accurate?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Don't forget "Scourge of Evil-lutionists"
quite important to the Beej's self-image.

[ Parent ]
You say unicorn lover, I think nervous unicorns, Santorum and Rowland.


[ Parent ]
Students read.
What history has bjw read?

[ Parent ]
how likable is a guy
who seriously thinks bicycles are a UN plot? -- and, indeed, who thinks the UN hatches plots?.
Who cheats on his mileage forms and other campaign laws.  
and I don't know how to tell you this, Beej, but Hickenlooper ain't the imcumbent.  Google Bill Ritter when you can tear yourself away from your Bible studies...

[ Parent ]
Maes is affable.
And if the beej is really counting on the debates to swing voters in his candidate's favor, well, everything else he knows is faith-based, so at least he's consistent.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

[ Parent ]
Debates worked so well for Sarah Palin


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"Can I call you Hickenritter?"
Gubernatorial debate game: Do a shot every time Maes winks at the camera.

A leader on the battlefield can be a leader in Congress. -- redstateblues

[ Parent ]
you guys are children
1 PBR for every malaporposm  (eg nuculer. betcha)

1 shot for every math error (increase services, decrease taxes and staff)

3 PBR's for every wink


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They did indeed.
She creamed Biden. (Ah Biden - the laughingstock of the world. Maybe the subject of a good diary sometime.)

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Speaking of creaming...
That debate with Katie Couric...harsh.

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I know, right?
Poor Katie and her small minded bigotry.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Jeremiah was a bullfrog
so was Neanderthal man

in debates Hick will win, Tanc will far surpass Maes. in election Tanc will get more votes than Maes. Hick may not get a majority but that will only be because there are these 3 and obviously a lot of uninformed voters.


[ Parent ]
Gray was a bullfrog (according to evolution)
Global warming was a hoax.

Nobody likes Hick; somebody will beat him.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle


[ Parent ]
Currently, Hickenlooper is the mayor of Denver.
So yes, he is an incumbent. Neither of the other two candidates hold elected office.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

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Actually, no.
"Incumbent" refers to the current officeholder - not just any random politician who happens to be in office.  Hickenlooper is the incumbent mayor of Denver (which I don't think is what you meant) and Ritter is the incumbent governor of Colorado (which is what was being discussed).  Just sayin'.

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'Tis indeed what I mean.
You thought I thought Hickenlooper was actually our governor?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
"meant".


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
That IS how you were using the term, beej... N/T


Will ArapaGOP rescind his factually incorrect assertion regarding Rep. Coram and his son?

[ Parent ]
Incorrect. n/t


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
"So yes, he is an incumbent. Neither of the other two candidates hold elected office."
Student of History. Mathematician. And apparently 'Logician' and 'Semanticist' as well.

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
That's exactly what I meant.
Hickenlooper holds elected office right now (mayor of Denver).

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

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In consider Hick the candiate, he is not an incumbent.
He is an office holder.  

But there is a difference, and yes, you used the term incorrectly.  An incumbent is a person that holds the office for which s/he is running.  It means nothing else.  

You are wrong. Again.  And as usual you will neither admit it nor recognize it.  So carry on in your unicorn love, my little 'mathematician,' 'student of history' and 'philosopher.'


"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
Wrong.
From dictionary.com

in·cum·bent

-adjective
1.
holding an indicated position, role, office, etc., currently: the incumbent officers of the club.
2.
obligatory (often fol. by on or upon): a duty incumbent upon me.
3.
Archaic. resting, lying, leaning, or pressing on something: incumbent upon the cool grass.
-noun
4.
the holder of an office: The incumbent was challenged by a fusion candidate.
5.
British. a person who holds an ecclesiastical benefice.

#4 is the definition that applies here, and it is exactly what I said it was.

I fail to understand why you put quotes around those three terms, and why you don't put them around 'unicorn lover'.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle


[ Parent ]
Dan Maes is running for Mayor of Denver?
Because I think your credentials for unicorn lover are more established.  Whereas your other claims I find a bit fantastical.  

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
Yes Twitty,
Dan Maes is running for Mayor of Denver. I give up on explaining this to you.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

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You're simply wrong.
#4 Does not say what you think it does.  

Rather it implies the 'fusion candidate' is running against the incumbent (i.e. the candidate currently holding the position for which the fusion candidate is running.)

But no matter.  I have never seen indication that basic facts are within your grasp.  

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
CT
You can't argue details with a person who doesn't even grasp basic concepts.

This is serious, you commie dolt  --davebarnes, 2012.

[ Parent ]
The fusion candidate was the example.
Not the definition.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
you may refer to Hick as the incumbent Governor very soon though
so you don't really need to learn anything BJ

[ Parent ]
Evolution was a bullfrog.
You know the rest.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Jeremiah was a bullfrog
those with least knowledge and experience often learn by imitating their betters. Good effort

Neanderthal man evolved, he was not created


[ Parent ]
Ok, Gray.
In what regard do you feel you are my "better"?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
No, I was correct.
And so was Voyageur. Unless you think Buck has to worry since he's incumbent, too.

Will ArapaGOP rescind his factually incorrect assertion regarding Rep. Coram and his son?

[ Parent ]
Buck is an incumbent,
Bennet is the incumbent.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
Buck is an incumbent DA, not an incumbent senator
But yes, Bennet is the incumbent senator.

The incumbent, in politics, is the existing holder of a political office. This term is usually used in reference to elections, in which races can often be defined as being between an incumbent and non-incumbent(s). For example, in the 2004 United States presidential election, George W. Bush  was the incumbent, because he was the president in the current term while the election sought to determine the president for the following term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...  

"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity

"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'  


[ Parent ]
Beej will never ever never admit that he was wrong. But it is hilarious watching everyone
trying to educate him in such a simple concept. This will forever after be the perfect example of his stubborn willful ignorance.

Beej, you have made it crystal clear that if ColPols were a village, you would definitely be the incumbent Idiot. Does admitting you were wrong take something away from you?


"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher


[ Parent ]
Go re-learn articles.
Sometimes, the difference between "the" and "an" is huge.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

[ Parent ]
OMFG. You're serious aren't you?
That's it? Did my article offend your delicate sensibilities? It must be that Letters degree, right?

You've proven in comment after comment that Letters degrees are free with purchase at whatever madras you're attending. You certainly couldn't have actually earned it! There has been frighteningly little proof of it.

Oh my side hurts from laughing. You're pathetic.

"But, when it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you've got to grow up and realize there's a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy" - Bill Maher


[ Parent ]
Maes is creaming Tancredo? LOLOLOLOL!
I love it. Yet Tancredo has the gall to say he's more electable. And his shill Peter Boyles is doing everything he can to destroy both Hickenlooper and Maes - apparently to little effect.

"Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner

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