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Just imagine the freaking water bill he'll get!
I must have missed them. Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
Bennet and his 527s dumped $5 million to beat Romanoff
MSU? Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
In a Reuters/Ipsos poll, Buck led Bennet 49 percent to 40 percent among likely voters, with 10 percent undecided. (Democrats insisted that the poll's partisan breakdown -- 48 percent Republican, 40 percent Democrat and 8 percent unaffiliated -- vastly underplays the size of the independent vote in the state.) Bennet's campaign will release numbers of its own today showing the incumbent at 44 percent to Buck's 40 percent. That poll was in the field from Aug. 16-20 and conducted by Bennet campaign pollster Paul Harstad.
Bennet's campaign will release numbers of its own today showing the incumbent at 44 percent to Buck's 40 percent. That poll was in the field from Aug. 16-20 and conducted by Bennet campaign pollster Paul Harstad.
What was your question again?
You are referring to the actual poll done by Ipsos, Harstad, PPP, Rassmussen, etc, right?
Not this time.
Last winter I did read some of the actual polls because I wanted to see how the methodologies and questions differed. But since the methodologies and actual questions are not usually available, I stopped looking.
And while I'm no pro, I thought it was more typical for campaigns to do a release of internal numbers rather tan actually publish their internal polling.
Anyhoo- I don't care about the polls from pollsters who neither understand Colorado (8% U?) nor publish their actual questions and methods.
And I think most Colorado voters don't care that much about anything political until after next week.
But ballots are in the mail in about 5 weeks, so we're really in the home stretch now.
there was about an 11 point swing for Bennet from your guy in the primary
Michael told us a week in advance he was quite confident. I wasn't sure until PPP came out the day before.
Rasmussen is just a Republican cheerleader. judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric
Or was that Charley Miller or bjw? I'm getting all you mathletes mixed up.
8%? Ipsos polls 20% more R's than D;s, and only 8% U's? In Colorado? ANd anyone cares about their results? ok. Your guy is a lock- your work is done.
Actually, those numbers are huge as many have pointed out. A trend I predict will increase.
quote of the day...(The cutting Senior's Social Security, over-stressing small business, and ignoring the public outcry moment.)
"Whatever insults my State insults me." Preston Brooks Charley Miller Unaffiliated charleymiller2010
And then, the piece of it that the President, we own, I own, was the recovery package last year which was roughly $760 billion. All that adds up to $12 trillion, and we've got to address it. It's immoral to leave this to our children ... "We have managed to acquire $13 trillion of debt on our balance sheet. In my view we have nothing to show for it."
If you read what he said carefully he's talking primarily about Bush's drunken orgy of borrowing & spending. But he is including the deficit spending & stimulus bill under Obama too.
What's really bad news here is if Bennet is taking this tack it means that Congress is definitely not going to do any more spending to fix the economy and we're very likely looking at our own lost decade coming. Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
While it's hard to show why a new bridge over I25 is good, it's damn easy to show why keeping teachers on the job is. Or cops on the street that would've been laid off. Or building extra capacity at the VA Clinic in the Springs. Or vet homeless shelters in Denver. "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
If you support those initiatives, which I believe you do, you are supporting reduced business investment in Colorado. I've spoken to some metro area chambers of commerce and they claim businesses have said they will not bring money to Colorado while the fate of these initiatives are up in the air.
The fact that 60, 61, and 101 are on the ballot has reduced private sector sustainability in Colorado. Imagine if they pass Libby. Where will your sustainability be when there is no business willing to come to a broken state?
Now back to you unsustainable big government growth policies (bailouts to Obamacare to Dirty Dozen) that have delivered a double dip recession ... just what was your point as to how your policies of diverting cash from the private sector and increasing private sector investment risk and business operations costs help the private sector create sustainable growth?
Your big government double dip recession will be doubled again if these ballot measures pass, Libertad. While you may not like Obama and the stimulus, I challenge you to show me how passing 60, 61, or 101 will influence the federal government or the deficit at all.
They will harm the private sector you care so much about, however. That is the point, which you are missing.
So again I say ... back to your unsustainable big government growth policies (bailouts to Obamacare to Dirty Dozen) that have delivered a double dip recession.
Just what was your point as to how your policies of diverting cash from the private sector and increasing private sector investment risk and business operations costs help the private sector create sustainable growth?
Explain, because I've been listening for 2 years and I still don't get how your economic model grows jobs.
As to the larger discussion on big government, Obamacare and the stimulus - I leave that debate to minds with more patience than my own.
Keep hyping this Federal debt problem out of proportion and watch what happens. We'll knock the third leg our from under our economy and move from the Great Recession to the Great Depression II.
Consumer spending is way down and personal savings are up (sounds good on paper, but is depressing our 70% consumer driven economy). Business spending is down and businesses are sitting on truly massive amounts of cash they refuse to invest in the economy. State government coffers are bare and they have already cut spending to the bone.
The only thing propping up the economy right now is Federal stimulus spending (that means deficit spending...). For Bennet to repeat the Republican mantra now makes me even more sure I was correct in supporting Romanoff because Andrew clearly understood the ramifications of this kind of rhetoric and what the policy implications were to the health of our economy.
Bennet needs to talk about jobs, jobs and jobs. That is what people are really concerned about, not the deficit. To use a theme on the other side comparing national macro-economic trends to home economics- people without food on the table aren't so much worried about whether they can send their kids to college ten or fifteen years down the road. They are worried about whether they can feed their kids tonight.
Honestly, I don't really know what Michael Bennet does or does not understand. Within a month of being appointed to the Senate to represent a state that had just voted for Barack Obama, he joined the Senate Blue Dogs in demanding a smaller stimulus package than the one proposed by the president. That was what turned me off him in the first place. Now, I get the sense that he is trying to sound like a Republican while running on the Democratic ticket, not unlike Betsy Markey.
I would greatly prefer candidates who made the case: when ordinary people have had to curtail spending because they don't have the income to support demand, only the government is in a position to replace that lost demand by financing capital projects at very low interest rates--projects that are both needed in their own right and that will help stimulate economic activity in the short term, and those loans will seem relatively a lot smaller in the future when compared to a larger economy. (I might go so far as to argue that financing educational operations is a form of capital investment.) This is sound fundamental economics and it represents the position of the Democratic administration.
I'm mightily uncomfortable with candidates who conclude, "Hey, if I wanna get elected in Colorado, I'd better try to sound sorta like a Republican," rather than who try to make the Democratic case to the electorate.
Sorry if I misunderstood your remark about having to spend less in hard times, and my sympathy if you're facing that situation.
Among the many disservices perpetuated over and over, by both professional and amateur journos, is reducing the science of economics to the simplistic notion that the national economy is just like household economies, only bigger. This is frequently done by using the word "grandchildren" in these discussions, as in the phrase "leaving the national debt to our grandchildren," as if T-bills were like--indeed, an extension of-- the family credit-card balance and implying that cute little 5-year-olds will be lining up to hand over their milk money to the T-Bill Collector in the school lunchroom just 'cause Grandpa couldn't resist that shiny new mass-transit rail line, greedy old man that he is (was).
No room to recite the basics of Money & Banking 101, here, but suffice it to say that's not how the economy works, as explained 70 years ago by John Maynard Keynes. Servicing the national debt years hence on a much bigger economic base will feel like servicing World War II-era bills felt in the 1970s--remember how awful that felt? You don't? Well....
Meantime, what the fabled grandchildren WILL feel, if we let it happen, is the result of a decade (or more) of economic doldrums brought on by failure to exercise the basic principles of the aforementioned Keynes.
Krugman has a brief take on the current craze to forget basics of economics here: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c...
There was an interesting piece, somewhere, the other day about the new Memory of electronics, to the effect that emails, blog postings, etc. last, more or less, forever, and thus have the potential to come back to haunt and embarrass the writer in the future. ("Wow, I sounded ignorant then, didn't I?") Worth thinking about in your case, if thinking is on your schedule this year.
In the face of all evidence, fact, and reason,
That evolution is not testable does not make it only a belief "just like creation". Creation is only a word, with nothing but a book that has been rewritten numerous times to support it. Evolution is supported by thousands of facts, fossils and observations.
Your lack of intelligence, insight and critical thinking is supported by the state and proven by your satements.
Just think, we are messing with god's plan when we go to a 4 day work week
that question about the origin of Cain's wife I remember getting in trouble for asking when I was about 6. I remember we were looking at one of those Biblical maps and I was looking and looking for ....
:)
http://www.reasonablefaith.org...
Yes it's ok to say "God", and no the gnostic gospels or whatever other crap you're peddling was not divinely inspired. "...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
"I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," Willard Mitt Romney demonstrating 'policy flexibility.'
It's good for dating stuff as old as the great flood, maybe up to 10x older (~60,000 years).
U-Pb and Rb-Sr are much better ways to date REALLY OLD rocks (half life of 238U is 4.47 billion years; 87Rb is 48.8 b.y.); K-Ar is useful for ages in between (40K has a half life of 1.25 b.y.) Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
The ones I ordered from the State of Colorado to get my kids into little league look exactly the same too. Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
Are you sure you were home schooled and not just breast fed all those years? Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
Neanderthal Man was a hoax
His philosophies were a pack of lies. And the this has (finally) been proven by experiment in America.
Excuse me? Where are the controls for this "experiment?" How can anything about economics be proven if the "experiments" lack controls?
Or, are the criteria for what comprises an experiment more rigorous when you are uncomfortable with the implications of an actual scientific theory? But you are willing to relax your standards when you want to make a point about a most dismal "science?" "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --ChuckieD, 1871
Seems to many that Bennet is trying to reach out to the Tea Party, thank God they know its more of a reach around --- typical prep schooler!
the type of Free Thinker he is, is to freely accept RW imaginations. Then makes up his own conclusions.
sad really. "Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad
I think you should call Ralphie SIR
I'm also kind of sick of "sir"
At two years into the worst recession since the Carter debacle, businesses (employers) are screaming at Democrats to reverse their failed policy agenda of excessive taxing, massive spending, new program creation and job killing regulatory management.
First, over the last year as presented by employer Steve Wynn, President Obama and the Congressional Democrats have got it wrong on a massive scale. He's asked you to please stop, breath and think before you act next.
Second, as the Wall Street Journal stated, "Verizon Communications Inc. Chief Executive Ivan Seidenberg, current head of one of the nation's most influential business groups [The Business Roundtable], slammed the Obama administration for decisions he said 'create an increasingly hostile environment for investment and job creation...'".
To give you knuckleheads some perspective, Seidenberg's association directly represents 10% of the nations wage earners. His association members depend on another 60% of us wage earners as small and medium sized vendors and customers... that's more or less the entire private sector when you factor in the unemployed who used to be workers, suppliers and customers.
American citizens deserve the best from our government managers (aka political leaders) including a basic principle of delivering policies that enable free-market prosperity.
We are about individual liberty and limited government - have been for centuries - its what made us great.
Yet today, President Obama and the Democrats have expanded big government multiple factors beyond where Bush and the Congressional Democrats took government's role.
Continuing to double down and subsidize bad management decisions through taxpayer funded bailout programs, government takeovers of industry, warped incentive schemes, government dependent investment controls and increased regulations only hike the cost of producing goods on the back of the consumer; the majorities failed policies have proven unsustainable and a catalyst for a horrible national and global nightmare.
President Obama and the Congressional Democrats results are clear: record deficits, an unsustainable national debt, massive unemployment, a growing poverty class and barriers to sustainable private capital investment.
These results have brought a fearful outcome ... a dramatically lowered American and world standard of living for many future generations.
You just can't get your dates straight, can you? Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
snicker, snicker...
BTW -- Bennet is saying the national debt is immoral, not the Stimulus. He thought the Stimulus was necessary. Is that too complex for you, David? Mike Coffman represents the best interest of Aurorans like: Michael Vick represents the best interests of dogs and Tom Tancredo represents the best interests of immigrants.
He seems pretty steadfast in his claims that our debt is too high and that something needs to be done. He puts some of the blame on the wars and tax cuts, but he also takes some of the blame with the stimulus bill. He also claims that we've seen nothing from it.
If I'm Buck, I jump all over this quote. Although it paints Bennet as a fiscal conservative, which is what I'm sure he is going for, now Buck can say that Bennet has no idea what he is doing, that he spent a lot of money that, in Bennet's own words, didn't work, and now the children have to pay for it.
I think something like:
Michael Bennet has voted for every stimulus bill which has been passed since he has been in the Senate. Billion dollars of debt to be paid by our grandchildren. You know what we have to show for it? (bennet audio - billions in debt nothing to show for it).
Now Michael Bennet says the stimulus plan he voted for failed and not paying for it was immoral. (audio) That's right Bennet admits he was immoral.
It is time we send someone back to Washington who will not spend our grandchildren's inheritance. Someone who is a real western grassroots leader. It is time for Ken Buck in the US Senate. We already know Bennet bought his win - that ability to raise more money is part of why many in our party love him. -DavidThi808 Michael Bennet - ineffective, dishonest and immoral - Democrat for US Senate
Now Michael Bennet wants you to believe he is a good person. Audio of Bennet: It's crazy.
"The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
Where will you get $100? Save $10/wk and you'll have it by the election
Either the big bad Islamofacists scare the piss out of you, or they don't.
And, yes, I did serve. 11B, 25M and 46R. "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
I would like to point out the progession of the MOS's. I did my hard time in the field, and found jobs that I THOUGHT were going to keep me further and further indoors. "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
I don't know if this global warming Whozee-whatzit is real or just a natural part of the end of days. Tina Fey/Sarah Palin
In Judaism the term "End of Days" is taken from the Tanakh, Numbers 24:4, as a reference to the Messianic era and the Jewish belief in the coming of Mashiach and the World to Come.
b4 god created the sun light came from swamp gas
Probably the same thing, eh?
Seventy-five percent (75%) of Hickenlooper supporters are certain they will vote for him and sure they won't change their mind. Just 54% of Maes supporters are that certain.
It's a 3-way. 33%+1 is a victory.
If TT drops (don't bet the farm) when those undecided and unfaithful R's find out how .... qualified Maes is, they'll stay home or vote Hick.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co... If you're not upset, you haven't been paying attention. Mike Littwin
completely skipping over Rasmussen's 10-15 point bias to the right. "Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad
http://www.rasmussenreports.co... "But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh, shut up!' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." Glenn Beck
Mike Coffman represents the best interest of Aurorans like: Michael Vick represents the best interests of dogs and Tom Tancredo represents the best interests of immigrants.
the questions were biased. One had a difficult time responding favorably for Hick and Bennet. even so by claiming to be republican, I was allowed to continue with the rest of the questions.
my statistics teacher had a saying at the top of the semester. "there are lies, Damn lies and statistics. I will teach you to sort through it all" "Fake but accurate!" ~GOPwarrior "infrastructure,whatever that is." ~bjwilson83 "You leftist DICK!" ~ Laughing Boy See you at the polls you dumb bastard.~Libertad
fromt he same Ras poll
But still- the R's will clearly win, because their two totals added together are more than Hick's.
Or he can box it for half the payoff. Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same. Which one will it be? --Joseph V. Paterno
http://www.denverpost.com/reco... "...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
The comments below the opinion piece really show that people are ready to get behind the crazy.
"There are a lot of reasons not to elect me." Mitt Romney in a moment of clarity
A better way to bring about sustainability would be to check the high birth rates in developing countries.
From op-ed linked above. Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
They're okay to cite when you say "So and so at the Ghost (or whatever news outlet) thinks...." but they'll never be admissible as evidence of anything other than the author's take. "Thank you for putting your rank political motives on display." - ArapaGOP
Why are you lying? Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
Designing it now as we speak - how can I work in the Commie Red Bicycles placed around our fair city by those nefarious anti-small business city employees? "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
Orrin Hatch has joined the ranks of the defenders of the American way on the question of Mosques. He supports the right to build it a few blocks from ground zero. He recognizes questions of sensitivity but goes on to say that even taking that into consideration:
There's a question of whether it's too close to the 9/11 area, but it's a few blocks away, it isn't right there. Frankly, there are a lot of people who feel, including the mayor of New York, that they should have every right to do it, and that New Yorkers should support them...And there's a huge, I think, lack of support throughout the country for Islam to build that mosque there, but that should not make a difference if they decide to do it. I'd be the first to stand up for their rights.
For more http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Yes, righties, it's at liberal HuffPost but direct quotes are direct quotes and you can see that none of it is taken out of context to mean something it doesn't.
If only the rest of his party and the movement which supports them in the "take our country back!" movement could understand that feeling. A woman's health decisions are a private matter between her priest and her husband.
Every religion has it's crazies...why discriminate? "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
Excerpts from Christopher Hitchens piece on the Beck Rally Phenomenon
One crucial element of the American subconscious is about to become salient and explicit and highly volatile. It is the realization that white America is within thinkable distance of a moment when it will no longer be the majority. This awareness already exists in places like New York and Texas and California, and there have even been projections of the time(s) at which it will occur and when different nonwhite populations will collectively outnumber the former white majority. But it also exerts a strong subliminal effect in states like Alaska that have an overwhelming white preponderance.
and for local interest
The Washington Post quoted Linda Adams, a Beck supporter from Colorado, who said, "We want our country to get back to its original roots," adding that "her ancestors were on the Mayflower and fought in the American Revolution." She was also upset that some schools no longer require students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Well, the U.S. population is simply not going to be replenished by Puritan pilgrims from England, and the original Pledge of Allegiance was fine with most people as a statement of national unity, until its "original intent" was compromised by a late insertion of the words "under God" in the McCarthyite 1950s. But one still sees what she means and can feel sympathy with the pulse of nostalgia.
also this
In a rather curious and confused way, some white people are starting almost to think like a minority, even like a persecuted one. What does it take to believe that Christianity is an endangered religion in America or that the name of Jesus is insufficiently spoken or appreciated? Who wakes up believing that there is no appreciation for our veterans and our armed forces and that without a noisy speech from Sarah Palin, their sacrifice would be scorned? It's not unfair to say that such grievances are purely and simply imaginary, which in turn leads one to ask what the real ones can be. The clue, surely, is furnished by the remainder of the speeches, which deny racial feeling so monotonously and vehemently as to draw attention.
For the whole terrific piece: http://www.slate.com/id/2265515/
I'm a Christian, but only to me and my family. It's not part of my deal to let anyone else even know about my faith, so I don't really identify with the tone of that gathering. Plus I think Beck's a tool, but I do disagree with attempts to paint the whole gathering as a Klan rally.
And you are absolutely right that Hitchens can be quite hostile to the religious. It's because he sees religion as foolish and doesn't suffer fools gladly. It's nice to see a conservative who won't knuckle under to the religious right even though I rarely agree with his views on policy nor would I describe myself as an atheist. It seems to me that atheism requires a level of faith in the unprovable and rather rigorous devotion akin to that demanded by organized religions.
It seems to me that atheism requires a level of faith in the unprovable and rather rigorous devotion akin to that demanded by organized religions.
It just boils down to a matter of what you believe or don't believe in. "I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork
Confession. I believe that infinity is the central mystery and accounts for why science can't come up with a unified theory of everything no matter how close it gets and why religion can't come up with the single definitive spiritual instruction book for cracking the meaning of life. But that doesn't make it all a waste of time. With no destination, no beginning, no end we'd best all make the most of the journey. Nothing wrong with great journeys, learning, experiencing, loving and being all we can.
Probably not.
A new poll shows that public support for health care reform dropped sharply in August - a dagger in Democrats' hopes that their landmark legislation will help them in November's midterm. The Kaiser Health Tracking Poll has support for the bill dropping 7 percentage points in August - down to 43 percent - while opposition rose 10 points to 45 percent. That's the weakest showing since May - and a far cry from the bump proponents had hoped to see as some of the law's more consumer-friendly provisions kick in.
The Kaiser Health Tracking Poll has support for the bill dropping 7 percentage points in August - down to 43 percent - while opposition rose 10 points to 45 percent. That's the weakest showing since May - and a far cry from the bump proponents had hoped to see as some of the law's more consumer-friendly provisions kick in.
About one-third of voters said support for the health reform law would make it more likely that they'd vote for a candidate. But one-third said it would make it less likely and another third said it wouldn't make much of a difference. Those figures haven't changed much since the law passed.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s... Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
"It also means that as we transition in Iraq, that the one thing I will insist upon for however long I remain President of the United States is that we serve you and your families as well as you served us.
"So we spent a lot of time over the last couple of years making sure that we're increasing our support of veterans: that we are making sure that our wounded warriors are cared for; that some of the signature injuries of our war, like post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury, that we are devoting special services there; that we've got a post-9/11 GI bill that ensures that you and your family members are able to come back and fully contribute and participate in our economy; that our veterans are constantly getting the care and honor that they have earned."
Restore THAT 'tad...and for Beej, those are Army soldiers eating chow hall food with the President. "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
Thanks for exposing that lie. "Why not do the right thing for the American people, even though it's not exactly what we want." - Speaker Boehner
Franz Kebreau, national director of the National Association for the Advancement of Conservative People of All Colors (NAACPC), told CNSNews.com that a counter-rally led by Rev. Al Sharpton, also on Saturday in Washington, D.C., was really a disservice to the slain civil rights leader. "[Beck] is actually extending the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr., which is fantastic," Kebreau said. "You know, Al Sharpton should be here. This is where he should be. We're trying to create a unifying effect, and create a unity. "We would love for him [Sharpton] to be here because we're honoring Martin Luther King Jr.," said Kebreau. "We're honoring Frederick Douglass. We're honoring the idea of looking at people based on the content of their character, and not the color of their skin."
"[Beck] is actually extending the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr., which is fantastic," Kebreau said. "You know, Al Sharpton should be here. This is where he should be. We're trying to create a unifying effect, and create a unity.
"We would love for him [Sharpton] to be here because we're honoring Martin Luther King Jr.," said Kebreau. "We're honoring Frederick Douglass. We're honoring the idea of looking at people based on the content of their character, and not the color of their skin."
cnsnews.com
"CNSNews.com is an alternative to the liberal media."
Are you sure they didn't lift out the quotes they wanted, and posted a story that makes it appear a certain way? "The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten." Calvin Coolidge
What a maroon!
Its just like Further, but with tax cuts! - Fidel's Dirt Nap
NYC, Tennessee, California, and now western NY.
The reality of what spreading hate as a populist tool accomplishes.
For shame, all in the name of political expediency.
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/...
CAIR said the teenagers were charged with disrupting religious services at a Town of Carlton mosque after they allegedly honked their car horns and yelled obscenities during one prayer service, and fired a weapon outside of another. A member of the mosque was reportedly injured when he was allegedly struck by one of the vehicles. One teenager was charged with criminal possession of a weapon. Two younger teenagers may also face charges.
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