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Buck Beats Norton

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Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 21:05:43 PM MDT


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Buck Beats Norton | 73 comments
Fucking awesome

I'll reiterate my earlier comment
Bucking Frilliant.
[ Parent ]
This is not good
I think Buck will be a much tougher opponent for Senator Bennet than Jane Norton would have been.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
But, Ken is not a religious nutjob like Jane
I don't want either.
But, given the choice, I would vote for Ken over Jane any day.
[ Parent ]
Indeed
Be careful what you wish for - we should always strive to get an opponent who is not batshit crazy.  Up in Larimer County a few years ago, we had some primary party switchers vote for a local Republican, um, "character" because it was felt there was no way he could win the general County Commission election.  And that is how we ended up with Commissioner Bender (infamous for his diatribes and bizarre theories on the "Liberal Taliban")

I'd much prefer Buck over Norton if worse comes to worst and Bennet loses.

[ Parent ]
Totally agree.
Buck has a brain.  Jane's weird-ass religious quackery would turn off independent voters.  
[ Parent ]
Whoever runs
Will have to beat a good Senator with a lot of money.

It doesn't matter who, really.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
Agreed - Bennet has to be the odds-on favorite. Still......
it'll be a Republican wave in November, MB could possibly be pulled under by it.  

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Sure he could
Elections are like that.  You have to be ready to win or lose.

I think he showed us something in the Primary. Now he needs to go to work.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
Yeah, MB took several hard punches - and considering he'd
never been on the ballot before, did damned well.

No glass jaw there.  

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Not necessarily
People underestimate the power of ending combat operations in Iraq.  Obama is going to finish what Bush started and do it in a way that doesn't cost America.  You add that to Health Care Reform and Banking Reform and the job he did with the Gulf oil spill and it is going to be tougher to sell Republican cynicism.  The dreaded Republican wave might not be the Tsunami that they are anticipating.  Just three months ago Dick Wadhams was predicting a total rout in the gubernatorial race.

Bennet and Hickenlooper are moderates and that should be a key factor when voters go to the polls.  Buck can win of course but he can also commit some big gaffes and he is to the right of extreme on a lot of issues like the criminalization of womens health.  The guy is not a moderate and Bennet doesn't have to pull his punches or hoard his cash.

[ Parent ]
Keep telling yourself that.
How do you feel about buying Republicans steak dinners?  I'm two for two on Pols.
[ Parent ]
For God's sake, GG, don't make me try to defend DickWad of all people.
BUT.....

1) I know you care and I sure as hell do too, but much as I wish it were otherwise, the American people don't give a rip about Iraq so long as it's not on their television screens while they eat dinner.

2) Obama's major legislative accomplishments are not exactly wildly popular among Independents.

3) I agree with you about Buck obviously.

4) I think there's a 45:55 chance the R's gain control of the Senate in November. If that happens Bennet will be one of the Dems on the losing side the day after.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Too cynical for me State Line
The forest service told me in 2005 that all my pine trees would be dead in 3-5 years.  Now their saying 6-8.  I've cut twelve out of 150 since 2007.  The cynics said I'd be looking red by now but I still sit on my deck and look at lovely green trees every night.  I'm a born optimist dude and I believe in miracles.
[ Parent ]
Not at all meant as cynicism, just my appraisal of the world as it is
(I don't think Iraq would register 1% on a poll of voters' concerns.)

Not sure what your pine trees have to do with Bennet, but hey......glad you're happy on your deck! Crack a PBR for me would'ja?

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
The experts have been wrong before
The Republicans are the masters of disaster and have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.  To assume the worst is to overlook the wonderful.  The American people are smart enough to see effort and know which way things are headed.

Obama has met every challenge and produced results that have stabilized our country and the world.  Your pessimism regarding an honorable conclusion to combat operations in Iraq is kind of sad really.  We are leaving behind a functioning country that is not in chaos and the men and women who lost their lives deserve more recognition for their sacrifice.  I do hope that the country stops and takes notice of this significant event.  The hour glass of our national karma will be turned over that day.  It's going to be great day and you heard it from me first.

[ Parent ]
If wishes were horses, GG.......
Hey - you and I have talked Iraq before and you know it's important to me personally in light of my experience.

I don't fool myself into thinking, however, that Iraq has high salience for the average American voter. Afghanistan is higher, and even that barely moves the dial.  

As DavidThi_ noted, 'jobs and the economy' will trump in November.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Given the choice
between an infestation of pine beetles and an infestation of politicians, I'd gladly sacrifice all my pine trees; pine beetles being the more rational and reasonable pests to deal with.

I agree with State Line on 1, 2, and 3.  4 is a longershot and less likely.  But don't forget, the Dems don't have to lose that many seats to lose the Senate.

I can very easily see a scenario where post-November both Ben Nelson and Phil Lieberman (officially) switch to the Republican party.  That means that the loss of just 6 D-seats and it'd be 50/50.  It's going to be damn close.

Don't believe everything you think.

[ Parent ]
Florida's Charlie Crist would also presumably caucus with the R's
if they'll hold the Senate majority.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
There's no way Repubs take the senate....
They would need 51 seats without Crist. Even with Cali, 51 is a tough number.

Crist will caucus with the Dems.

[ Parent ]
Do the math:
Arkansas, Delaware, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Indiana, Colorado, Washington, California - all very close races in current Dem Senate seats.

Assume the R's successfully defend their seats in Ohio, Kentucky, New Hampshire and Missouri - as appears highly likely.  

If you were Charlie Christ and you came into that particular Senate composition - esp with Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson, both of whom have no love for the Dems these days, as possible party switchers - what would you do?

I DID call it a 45:55 chance of a Republican takeover, not 55:45.

But in this highly toxic environment for Dems, it's not hard to envision the scenario unless one is wooly-eyed.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
I'll go with the experts...
Nate Silver puts the chances of Repubs taking over the senate at 9% (without Crist). According to his numbers, Dems have a higher shot of staying even at 59.

45%? Good luck with that.

[ Parent ]
I hope he's right, but wouldn't count on it. Dems at 59? A wet dream.


"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
3 months to go...
Economy could start showing promising signs, combat troops out of Iraq, could get two months of good job numbers, etc.

A 5% improvement for Dems could make a world of difference.

I agree it's a long shot, though...

[ Parent ]
And I agree it's a longshot that R's take the Senate -
I'm mainly arguing against Dem complacency.

Iraq hasn't moved the needle for American voters since before 2008. Anyway, 'combat troops' out at end August is a bit of a semantic exercise.

Re Jobs: I study the jobs #s closely every time they're released. Last Friday's report was a disaster. It would take MAJOR new #s to make the slightest postitive difference in the Aug/Sept jobs reports - there is zero reason to expect that to occur, given slack private sector hiring and public sector layoffs....

Re the macroeconomy: The Fed FOMC's statement today showed their worsening assessment of the trendline.....

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Dems @ 59?
See my "Rockies" reply to Gilpin Guy below.  Same applies to you.

Take a cab, take the bus, just don't get behind the wheel of the car tonight.


Don't believe everything you think.

[ Parent ]
He also puts the CO senate seat at 73%
chance of switching parties.  
[ Parent ]
I'd bet the math gets redone
now that Romanoff is out of the picture.  The 73% included the possibility that Romanoff would win the primary but lose the general.
[ Parent ]
You tell me
that a party that nominates a Dan Maes is ready to lead again?  Really?

Not gonna happen.

We're gonna hold the Governors mansion
We're gonna hold the legislature
We're gonna hold the Senate
We're gonna hold the House

[ Parent ]
The Rockies win the penant, the Rockies win the penant, the Rockies win the penant
Bennet supporter, right?

There's a fine line between optimism and intoxication.  Let someone else drive tonight.

Don't believe everything you think.

[ Parent ]
Thanks for looking out for my welfare Diogenes
I was in the basement in my pajamas so was safe for the night.

The big mantra over and over this year has been the enthusiasm gap.  Getting out of Iraq and making it real is a promise fulfilled by Obama and will up the enthusiasm for Dems.  Change is difficult to see until it occurs.  Those Democrats who voted in record numbers in the primary were voting to stay the course.  I'm guessing the lessons learned by Obama supporters in 2008 are going to be used again in 2010 with even better organized local groups.  I know the Dems. in Gilpin are better organized this time.  Bring on the Buckaroo .

[ Parent ]
The voters were pretty divided
Those Democrats who voted in record numbers in the primary were voting to stay the course.

55% voted to stay the course.

I'm sorry but I don't see Iraq/AfPak being a big deal unless things go really bad there in the next 2 months.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
You also predicted an upset victory for Romanoff
I'd take your crystal ball back for a check up.
[ Parent ]
There was a will present that maybe you missed Dave
There was a surge for Bennet at the end.  You could just feel that "Yes We Can" atmosphere in the last two weeks.  They were the ones who voted to stay the course and give Obama the troops he needed to carrying out the rebuilding of America.  It was very much the will of the majority of Democrats in Colorado to stay the course.  It is a continuity election now and Bennet has an excellent chance to capitalize on the Republican movement away from the middle and secure another vote for rebuilding America so that we can once again be a prosperous, peaceful and pluralistic society.  
[ Parent ]
I sure hope so
Because we need every Dem showing up to vote, and then we need to pull that "yes we can" from the middle.

BTW - my prediction of Romanoff was based purely on going against the conventional wisdom for bragging rights if I was correct.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!

[ Parent ]
Thats like betting on the underdog in the football pool
when ever one else is picking the overwhelming favorite.  You other races were pretty damn close.

Some things will have to go right for Dems to overcome the obstruction by Republicans to help the country out of this economic crisis but there very well could be a second surge come November.  Not saying it will happen but there is still a will to change the direction of this country into a positive course.

[ Parent ]
None of that matters
People are going to be voting on just two subjects - jobs and the economy. And they are going to measure incumbents and Democrats (Bennet is both) by results, not nice speeches. This November is going to be awful for us Dems if the job market still sucks.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
[ Parent ]
You're right of course. And only 2 more monthly jobs reports are on tap
before the Election - they're highly unlikely to show any improvement in the broad labor market.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Bennet wins easily
Colorado is a centrist state.  Buck is a right-wing whack job.  
[ Parent ]
Don't get overconfident
There will be a lot of 527 money behind Buck.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno
[ Parent ]
He ran to the RIGHT of Norton
Not overconfident.  Bennet will come across as rational, reasonable, perhaps boring.  Buck will blow up a bunch of times on the trail.  We're a moderate state.  Bennet is a moderate.  Buck is not.
[ Parent ]
Depends on your definition of 'easily'. The electorate is P.O.'ed.
Bennet will represent the Obamian status quo, with Buck as the 'change' candidate. (I know, I know: how f**ed up is that!)

But MB may pay the price for that sentiment abroad in the land. I think he's likely to win, but don't feel it'll be a walk by any means.

Making a silly projection from 3 months out, lets say MB by 4.5%  

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
I think it's the best possible outcome -
Buck's a whackjob, should be easier for Bennet to defeat in November.

"The graveyards of the world are filled with indispensable men."
- Charles deGaulle

"It's hard to balance on a woman's head."  - sxp151

[ Parent ]
Good job, Jane.
Now let's go Ken!!!

Checkbook out - let's flush the toilet.

Just saw Jane reading her concession speech
Very, very slowly.

History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.  (Mark Twain)
But did Cinamon's lips move? n/t


Disclaimer: No relation to Wade Norris.
[ Parent ]
No, but the strings were visible

[ Parent ]
I didn't see strings
But it looked like maybe someone's hand was up her ass....

History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.  (Mark Twain)
[ Parent ]
Apparently a sock puppet escaped the Internet

[ Parent ]
and where was Josh Penry's hand during all this?

[ Parent ]
I heard from a well placed source
Josh will take over for Dick Wadhams soon.
[ Parent ]
Wonderful, I can stop referring to Dickwad
and start referring to Josh Penis
[ Parent ]
Seeing your previous "predictions"
On US Sen. Ken Gordon and Sec. of Agriculture, John Salazar, forgive me if I say bullshit.
[ Parent ]
Which State Will Win The Whole Wad?


In a democracy, the majority of the citizens is capable of exercising the most cruel oppressions upon the minority. Edmund Burke

10/26/11 Colorado Ex-Pat; S/V Sisu Catalina 30
[ Parent ]
Oh yeah! What a great idea!
Not!

Am pretty sure the last 20 months have revealed just how misplaced our confidence in Penry has been.

[ Parent ]
Rubbing his massive boner for unions against a tree.
Finally, Politico quoted Josh Penry, boasting that "We've got a phone bank that would make the unions jealous."

http://www.examiner.com/x-5240...

[ Parent ]
Don't remember if I saw Josh on the podium
Was he there?

Or was he proving that failure is an orphan?

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

[ Parent ]
Buck said he's going to unite the GOP...
Even though he never mentioned Norton or her supporters and called all incumbent GOP representatives failures. D'oh!

It's a sad day when our politicians are comical and I have to take our comedians seriously.
Buck did mention Norton.
The first thing Ken Buck mentioned was Jane Norton and her supporters. He spoke of uniting the party and Jane Norton's graciousness.
[ Parent ]
Then I blame cbs4's live stream
I must have started watching it right after he mentioned her. My mistake.

It's a sad day when our politicians are comical and I have to take our comedians seriously.
[ Parent ]
644 Days Later
and McCain is still losing.
A shamless Plug, and Pun, Your PUNishment for the day
$1 SAVE USA Campaign Stop the Insanity! Fix the Economic Mess! & End the Free Rides! http://htxt.it/VQXH ! Is it worth a Buck to save the USA?

Lets be real, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Ken Buck or Michael Bennet will and have always stamped the party line, either way, they are not about fixing the insanity, they are part of it.

Send in your Buck! & forget Bennet Too! Thanks!
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Charley Miller

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charleymiller2010

[ Parent ]
I went to your website
and thought you were sorta OK until I got to
"Cut government spending through immigration reforms".
WTF!?
And, this issue affects how much of the Federal budget?

Try this instead: "Grow the economy be encouraging more people to immigrate to the USA."

[ Parent ]
Thanks for visiting my website, take another look, please.
You know how much is being wasted on Illegals?
How much is being lost, abuse, fraud and illegal practices?
How much is not taxed or how much money is leaving our country?
How many Jobs are lost or taken?
How many are in jails, prisons, or committing crimes with no fear of punishment?
How many business, financial institutions or other services are using illegals to essentially destroy America, by undercutting real Americans?

The numbers are staggering, even at the most liberal viewed statistics its INSANITY.

This is my major, "END THE FREE RIDES."

Buck or Tancredo ? On this issue I stand from personal experience, my immigration reform is Amnesty, No amnesty. Its not needed enforce the laws and they will leave.
Unless you think they will join the millions of homeless we see everyday? Ask the homeless, take the time to engage them, they know the answer.

I stand with both, but I have major differences.

One, The Republican platform is about cutting the budget by cutting into "Entitlements," how about fraud, waste and abuses, and by the way, the Democrats already did that, no cost of living increase is a cut folks, and the Healthcare reform excludes what group of people? So there goes my belief in Democrats holding the social issues, such as seniors, and the "little guy" they used to hold dear to heart.

Illegals to me are NOT entitled to anything, except those we view as Court mandated. The real problem is our lack of enforcing the current immigration laws.

I grew up, waking up at night, hearing my mother reciting, "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America." I am proud of that, her becoming an American citizen by naturalizing and her knowing English was the language of America. What part of that is wrong?

Maybe, its the fact I served in the military service, but I don't think so. Thousands and thousands I talked to, regardless, are seriously disturbed by someone stomping and spitting on our flag, holding a foreign flag over our soil, refusing to pledge alliance to our flag, or speak English, and demanding to take and take, without giving back, whose "Entitled" to what here? Am I wrong here?

SO, we are on the same page here. Please take another look at my page.

Seriously, this is one of the issues that I feel we have to address, now. And I will fight on the Senate floor and in the middle of the aisle on this matter, no matter what the Republicans and Democrats are saying for me its hogwash.

Stop the Insanity, Fix the Economic Mess and End the Free Rides and most of all, please consider putting someone in who will not have to rubber stamp, do the payback of political favors or simply get in and lie again to the public who elected them.

Thanks, thats all, its why I am running, I never been a politician, and I dont think you have to be one to do this dirty job. This is serious enough for me to engage here, anywhere, we have to.

Democracy is not about the tyranny of the Majority, we have to stop this now.


Charley Miller

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charleymiller2010

[ Parent ]
Sounds like Tancredo Light.
Immigration is a big issue, but I seriously doubt it will be at the top of many voters lists.
[ Parent ]
Rasmussenreports has "Someone Else" essentially at 8% + pssst. thats me.
NEWSFLASH!
The Number one budget crisis is Illegals, period.

Maybe, you should feel the pulse of America, or at least ask a few people what's keeping them up at night.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...

This way you won't have to say on November 3rd, "What the heck happened/"

Charley Miller

Unaffiliated

charleymiller2010

[ Parent ]
Buck wins!


"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
Pick out the prosecutor in the picture :)


Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!
[ Parent ]
Uh, the bald guy with his back to the camera?
;)

Discipline without purpose is tyranny.
[ Parent ]
The youngster
...in the Buck shirt on the right looks like he is getting set to follow in Ken's footsteps.
[ Parent ]
Where's Cody???
Me love him long time.

History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.  (Mark Twain)
[ Parent ]
Sorry,
I heard he was dating Miss America or something. He's busy with military stuff right now, but he did call in to the victory party.

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle
[ Parent ]
Ken Buck Victory Speech

...where's Waldo?

"...energy shouldn't be in the market." - Aristotle

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