Jane Norton Lets "Tea Party" Crowd Go Nuts, Loves "Passion"

Wait. Obama's a Muslim?

I thought he was just an A-A-Arab.

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 11:40:19 AM CST

and I thought the babies on the side of the road

were sentenced to die by the death panels,not by the garbage men!

I really think it should be for the death panelists to decide since that is what they're there for....

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by: Car 31 @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 12:32:50 PM CST

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Actually....

the death panels are made up of Muslims. It's just easier for Norton supporters to understand it that way.  

"Religion is for people who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for people who've been there, and don't want to go back"

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by: allyncooper @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 13:19:34 PM CST

And they're trying to take garbage men's jobs.

Probably illegal immigrant, death panel Muslims.

That ties it all together so nicely!

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 13:36:10 PM CST

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ZZZZZZZZZZZ.

So Jane asked the morons to try to channel their anger into something positive?

Wow.  She's out of control.

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 14:56:40 PM CST

Shouldn't she

have told them that they were misinformed? John McCain wasn't afraid to do that during the campaign, I don't see why Jane Norton placating them is something to be proud of.

"I'll take incompetence over a business model incentivised to kill me any day." -- DtR(H)

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by: redstateblues @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 15:03:40 PM CST

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I agree with that

n/a

Ken Buck: a man of Mr. Rove and Dick Cheney. The road forward does not use reverse.

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by: Ray Springfield @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 15:13:29 PM CST

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John McCain also lost

so which lesson will most Republicans conclude from McCain's one honorable moment?

Bring back S[redacted]e H[redacted]y!

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by: sxp151 @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 15:25:08 PM CST

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Actually, McCain had many honorable moments.

Then he went and picked Sarah Palin.   Sigh.

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by: Voyageur @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 15:59:40 PM CST

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John McCain lost

because he never bothered to learn anything about the economic aspects of being president. Then he picked Phil Gramm to be his economic adviser, and Sarah Palin to be his running mate.

He also ran a truly terrible campaign, and his opponent was raking in money hand over fist while schooling McCain in the debates. Other than that, McCain would have won.

It wasn't because he corrected a woman at a rally who said Barack Obama was an arab.

"I'll take incompetence over a business model incentivised to kill me any day." -- DtR(H)

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by: redstateblues @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 19:37:56 PM CST

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I'm not saying you're wrong

It's just that when I read right-wing blogs (redstate.com is absolutely hilarious every day), they all claim the reason he lost is that he wasn't enough of a fighter. And that moment at a rally is one of their examples.

Bring back S[redacted]e H[redacted]y!

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by: sxp151 @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 19:58:52 PM CST

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I know, it's just a great analogy for why Norton is fake

And, IMO, it was one of the few times during the campaign when he actually did fight.


"I'll take incompetence over a business model incentivised to kill me any day." -- DtR(H)

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by: redstateblues @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 20:44:11 PM CST

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I know I'm weighing on this WAY late, but.....

Sarah Palin ROCKS

The McCain 2008 campaign was easily the WORST ran Presidential campaign of modern times - that said, Palin was one of the only good decisions McCain made and the fact that the polls surged was proof - the only time McCain was ahead of Obama was when Palin was on the ticket

And I'll never buy that Palin brought McCain down - my own polling numbers dropped heavily the day McCain supported the bailout - overall, Palin gave McCain a strong chance - McCain, himself, still managed to find a way to screw it all up

Lastly - Palin is very Pro-Muslim -

http://blog.beliefnet.com/city...

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Granted, Palin did call the attack at Fort Hood a terrorist attack and called for Muslim soldiers to be screened, but I, as a Muslim, found her comments on the tragic Fort Hood attack to be exaggerated by the media as anti-Muslim comments - they were not - perhaps they were overzealous, in terms of security, but there was no racism in those comments

Overall - Sarah Palin is a terrific leader and she'll have my support in 2012 (if she runs), unless Gingrich runs

TABOR4LIFE

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by: Muhammad Ali Hasan @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 06:36:36 AM CST

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The mind boggles

Bring back S[redacted]e H[redacted]y!

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by: sxp151 @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 07:42:23 AM CST

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why do R's love...

their "leaders" with IQ's well below the national average?  I just don't get it.  I understand feeling some disdain for intellectual elites.  But I don't understand overcompensating for that by desiring leaders with not a single shred of intellectual curiosity.  Fortunately for you, Gingrich does have some.  But Palin?  Do you really want a leader who won't ask questions of her advisors because she doesn't know what questions to ask, and doesn't have the desire to go below skin deep on any issue?

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy

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by: indipol @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 09:23:17 AM CST

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I would politely disagree

Governor Palin has tremendous intellectual fortitude

I think she needs to be given great credit for actually increasing Alaska's severance taxes, for the benefit of her people - you won't find many Republicans that take on oil companies for the sake of helping the environment and the people

In addition, while increasing severance taxes, she was able to cut many regular taxes and fees, adhering to solid fiscal conservatism - this is all combined with the fact that she got rid of the GOP establishment that was too involved with oil in the State of Alaska

I wish she hadn't resigned, as it will harm her - nonetheless, of all the GOP Governors, I had always maintained that she had, perhaps, the best record out there

Romney? Please.... his biggest accomplishment was 'universal' healthcare... we'll see how far his campaign goes in 2012

Again - the only candidate I'd support over Palin is Gingrich

TABOR4LIFE

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by: Muhammad Ali Hasan @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 10:10:32 AM CST

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that isn't evidence of intellect

she increased taxes, she took on an entrenched, corrupt power structure.  So what?  That isn't intellect.  Intellect is when you bring to her an extremely complex situation with all sorts of moving components and ask her to make a brilliant political and policy decision on it.  I have seen no evidence whatsoever that leads me to believe she is capable of that.  Either was W.  Almost everybody around him, yes.  But not W.  And not Sarah.  

You just can't get around the truth that the Katie Couric interview laid bare (and that definitely wasn't her only f-up... she showed the same prowess at the VP debate and only came off looking OK because Biden was at his smarmiest).  I'm not looking for Steve Harvey-like powers here, I'm just looking for something.
 

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy

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by: indipol @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 12:40:46 PM CST

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:)

Who would have thought that being called "smarter than Sarah Palin" could come off as such a nice compliment?

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...

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by: Steve Harvey @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 19:24:10 PM CST

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Politely disagree

I think intellect is a collection of ones actions, record, and follow through - not ones performance on an edited interview

Palin has a terrific record as Governor - she should be judged on that basis  

TABOR4LIFE

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by: Muhammad Ali Hasan @ Tue Dec 29, 2009 at 05:24:34 AM CST

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MAH, She should be judged

on the totality of the evidence.

I happen to suspect that she is probably a moderately bright woman, though I've never seen her make any public comment to support that supposition. She certainly has some real talents and qualities, charisma being among them.

The problem is that her ambition outstripped her abilities (considerably more than "moderate intelligence" was required), and she never applied her moderate intelligence to the kinds of issues that a major politician on the national stage needed to apply them to. She consistently demonstrated close to zero knowledge on economics, foreign policy, and general systemic dynamics relevant to the position she was seeking (and, more importantly, the one she would have been in line for).

As many have noted, she's perfectly equipped to be a radio or tv talk show host, and either to contribute robustly to the ideological noise pollution out there, or to create a more useful niche for herself in that field.

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...

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by: Steve Harvey @ Tue Dec 29, 2009 at 09:59:26 AM CST

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ok fine,

I can even concede "moderately bright."  

That said, she came in professing major command and mastery of only one major issue: energy.  She then proceeded to prove that while she might have command of Alaskan energy issues, she is utterly clueless on United States and global energy issues, and unwilling to expand her knowledge.  

To me, her greatest intellectual failing in the campaign season was her demonstrated inability to start from her Alaskan energy experiences, and move into a vision for the U.S. as a whole.  Instead, fossil energy was all she knew and all she could continue to talk about, utterly clueless how far down the backside of Hubbert's Peak the U.S. already is.

In fact, I just registered
www.veryliberalagitatedpissedoffpeoplewithnoorganization.com
-Laughing Boy

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by: indipol @ Tue Dec 29, 2009 at 10:42:03 AM CST

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Yep.

Not what one would call "an expansive mind."

We're all in this story together: Let's make sure that we write it well.
http://www.steveharveyforcolor...

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by: Steve Harvey @ Tue Dec 29, 2009 at 10:49:52 AM CST

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Ali

Don't you think Jane Norton should have corrected the misinformed Morgan County Republicans who were seen at the diner in the video in the post above?

What do you see as the best way for the Republican Party to counteract some of this bizarre, xenophobic, anti-Islamic/Obama is a muslim stuff? It's really making the Tea Partiers and the Republican Party by extension look like idiots.

"I'll take incompetence over a business model incentivised to kill me any day." -- DtR(H)

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by: redstateblues @ Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 16:13:17 PM CST

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RSB

Brother - yes, Jane shouldve said something to clarify things - I agree with that greatly

As far as other concerns -

Tea Party crowd - I have had many interactions with the Tea Party community and they are NOT racist or xenophobic - when xenophobic displays happen (which they do, but rarely) they are hyperly exaggerated

I have personally spent the last couple months speaking personally to Republican groups all over the state and I can honestly say that, out of around the hundreds of Republicans and Tea Partiers I've spoken to, I have only met ONE blatantly prejudice person - otherwise, my greeting at conservative events, as a Muslim, has been extremely positive - that said, moments of xenophobia amongst conservatives are rare occasions, not frequent ones  

TABOR4LIFE

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by: Muhammad Ali Hasan @ Tue Dec 29, 2009 at 05:22:17 AM CST

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I'd prefer that she corrected them

But she's not the first, nor will she be the last politician who let a hateful/stupid/hurtful statement go by when uttered by a member of their base.

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 16:03:02 PM CST

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Good point.

Freaks.

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 16:34:41 PM CST

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Freaks indeed.

Like Bush didn't do enough to complain about, they really needed to exaggerate like that?

There is a difference in delivery here, the McCain Arab incident is a better comparison.  If Kucinich shook this guy's hand and said nothing, then I'm right there with you.  But the things in this story were said right to Norton's face.  She should've said something.

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 16:50:10 PM CST

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Um...

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 17:04:15 PM CST

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Sorry, I should have said something

about how Congressman Ellison is a dick.  My bad.

Still doesn't excuse Norton.

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 17:07:13 PM CST

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I find myself agreeing with Ellison.

What part did you think was off?

How soon we forget just how many human rights were openly violated after 9/11 by Bush and Cheney and cronies. How soon we forget the Patriot Act and the gross violation of the Constitution. How soon we forget our own government spied on millions of people in this country in direct violation of the FISA act. Boy, talk about a society suffering from attention deficit disorder.

Bush invaded a sovereign nation without provocation and as a result, over four thousand Americans died, at least 100,000 Iraqis died, and over 2 million have been displaced from their country. That still rates as a war crime in my book. I think the comparison Ellison made at the end was remarkably dead on. Not politically correct but that's often the problem with telling the truth.

"The only way you could be worse is if you were Wade Norris." Ralphie

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by: Middle of the Road @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 17:26:54 PM CST

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I agree

She responded by pointing out that Colorado has a 1/3(d), 1/3(r), 1/3(i) split.  For a politician, I think this a not so subtle way of saying "keep your voice down, we are still going to have to appeal to the moderate 1/3 of the state."  That is not a rebuke of the stupidity, but it is not pandering either.

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by: Early Worm @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 16:45:11 PM CST

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Good point, David

She won't be the first or the last.  I have no doubt that's true.

But please tell me why we would WANT another politician that won't disclaim hurtful/hateful statements made by the base.

Attention JO, Sharon Hanson, Ray Springfield.  The above question applies to you, too.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 19:55:54 PM CST

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What was the question?

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by: MADCO @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 20:47:44 PM CST

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I can only tell you what I commented on

Although it was pretty far from the original post.

Here's the part of David's post that I responded to:
"she's not the first, nor will she be the last politician who let a hateful/stupid/hurtful statement go by when uttered by a member of their base"

I apologize for being so far from the original post, but I had to go to the grocery store and buy pointless shit for antipasto.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 20:53:11 PM CST

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I just got back from buying some other pointless stuff

Good thing there was no traffic, the store was pouring whiskey shots and  it was a sunny 70º

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by: MADCO @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 21:04:03 PM CST

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Yay! Gail and/or Jane Norton is happy to represent morons!

Is this a natural fit?

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by: Jambalaya @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 17:58:09 PM CST

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Like a teabag...

...and a cup of hot water!

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by: divad @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 19:32:52 PM CST

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Bennet's got the gig right now... n/t

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

P.J. O'Rourke

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by: Laughing Boy @ Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 19:37:40 PM CST

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