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Afghan Strategy Flawed?

by: Thorntondem

Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 09:45:53 AM MST


The strategy
sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan seems flawed to me.

Listening to the President several days ago, it sounds like the reason why we are sending more troops is to defeat AlQaeda. That sounds like a reasonable objective. Afterall, these extremists are the one's who caused nearly 3,000 innocent lives lost on September 11th. However, the AlQaeda are now in Pakistan. Aren't they? How will sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan assist in that objective? Seems to me, if you send more troops to Afghanistan the AlQaeda will move deeper into Pakistan. If we are sincerely going over there to get the AlQaeda and the Taliban that support those terrorists then shouldn't we be sending troops to where the enemy is?

We should be coordinating with Pakistan, and assisting Pakistan in getting rid of this Alqaeda threat. We could even have fast moving, small teams ready to assist if these AlQaeda move to the Afghan side of the border or if Pakistan will atleast turn their head when we strike inside the Pakistani border. This strategy that I am proposing does not require a surge of 30,000 American men and women. It requires strong, thoughtful diplomacy with Pakistan and very small strike teams that can accomplish our objective.

Seems to me, the President's strategy is what I would call the nation building-lite strategy. If the true objective is getting rid of AlQaeda, then the strategy of sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan is wrong.

I caucused for then, Senator Obama way back in February 2008 because I wanted a President that would drastically change the direction of this country. The horrendous domestic and foriegn  policy of the last administration has set us back a generation.

I appreciate President Obama's willingness to work on HealthCare, but, I fear that this Afghanistan priority will take away from the momentum we have on focusing on other domestic policy changes needed and economic priorities.

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Hard to choose.
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Not because I can't decide between them, but because none of them is a "strategy."

In Korea, MacArthur's strategy was to land behind the North Korean advance at Inchon, cutting off their logistical tail.  

At Remagen, Monty was thinking he could secure a highway into the Germans' rear and likewise disrupt supplies to the front.  

Some would say the Reagan strategy in the Cold War was to scare the Soviets into spending so much on war and weapons that they went bankrupt.  

These are examples of "strategy."  You, and Obama, offer tactics.  You offer tools, without saying what the job is.  

If the strategy is to pacify Afghanistan by defeating al-Qaeda, Congratulations! Mission Accomplished.  
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I don't read nearly enough here but I'm half in love with Barron X
Thanks for the commentary and analysis here and elsewhere. I don't always agree but you always make me ponder. And yes, that's enough. For now.

[ Parent ]
hear hear
And I read pretty much everything.

[ Parent ]
One new thing we're trying to figure out
I saw this stated somewhere this weekend, that our goal is not victory but success. The U.S. has zero experience in fighting for limited ends. But that's what we have here.

And success is a lot more nebulous measure than victory. A lot of what Obama is trying to accomplish is to get the Taliban to seperate from Al Qaeda - how do you do that?

With all that said, I think the real fight is in Pakistan too.

Where all the cool kids will be on Saturday - Code War!


[ Parent ]
I would essentially agree with you Thorntondem
I think we need less, not more troops in Afgahnistan. Latest intelligence says there's only about 100 Al Qaeda fighters in Afgahnistan. So if the real problem has migrated to Pakistan, then that's where we need our resources.

Having 100,000 in a country to fight a force there that is now very minimal tells me this is more about nation building and propping up a corrupt, marginal US backed government that has very little chance of effectively unifying and ruling a nation state. Until that happens, Afghanistan will remain a largely ungovernable place dominated by feudal warlords.  

It's only class warfare if you fight back


The increase coincides with a new Pakistani offensive
South Wajiristan is AL Qaeda central,

Last summer's failed Pakistani offensive caused anywghere from 1.5 to 3 million refugeess. Many of the tAliban and Al Qaeda exited with them i'm sure.

Nevertheless, dismantling command and control structires by a two pronged attack on both sodes of the borfer makes some sense.

Sad taht nobody seems to care about catching  Bin Laden anymore.



judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric


Except
Just today, Pakistan pronounced the South Waziristan offensive "over."

http://www.inthenews.co.uk/new...

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno


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hard to say what's disinformation in a war zone
U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke said the United States and Pakistan are coordinating their efforts against Taliban in Pakistan and will work to coordinate their efforts to prevent Afghan Taliban from crossing into Pakistani territory as the U.S. troop surge in Afghanistan begins, Bloomberg reported Dec. 11.


judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric

Your article reports
Mr Gilani told reporters on Saturday, the military may now fix its attention on the Orakzai region where the militants are thought to have fled.

"The operation in South Waziristan is over. Now there are talks about Orakzai," he said.
So maybe they are on the run.

It's somewhat like Vietnam. The insurgents move with the refugeees.

judge elected officials by their actions, not by their rhetoric


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