"Platform for Prosperity" Unraveling at Breakneck Speed

Good to see the Denver Post putting some real effort

into asking the right questions. A pleasant change of pace for them.

"The only way you could be worse is if you were Wade Norris." Ralphie

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by: Middle of the Road @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 11:57:09 AM CST

Not much of a Friday Jam diary today

Was there?

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 20:06:51 PM CST

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Rub it in.

I remembered it around 2:30 p.m. Full house of dogs with it being Thanksgiving and all. I am sorry about that.

I'm also a little nervous that Pols doesn't approve since it don't have squat to do with politics.  

"The only way you could be worse is if you were Wade Norris." Ralphie

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by: Middle of the Road @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 20:32:12 PM CST

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If David can post music videos without criticism

So can I.

Or you.

Or anyone else, for that matter.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 20:48:45 PM CST

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Yeah, and at least we'd consolidate the videos

into one diary, instead of in the open thread. I'll put one up next Friday. I really did miss the boat altogether today.

"The only way you could be worse is if you were Wade Norris." Ralphie

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by: Middle of the Road @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 20:52:09 PM CST

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Better a day later than a month later

If this shows that McInnis will take reality into account as he gets into specifics, then I think this is good news all around. Maybe we can get a discussion of exactly what level of services this state wants to fund.

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 12:09:56 PM CST

Is There Pathos Here?

Kind of reminds you of the song Dandy Don Meredith used to sing at the end of the Monday night football game - "Turn out the lights, the party's over."

Doesn't it usually take a little longer than one news cycle for a political campaign to totally crash and burn?

Pathetic, just pathetic.

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by: abraham @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 12:24:19 PM CST

Good to see you aren't over-dramatizing this

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 12:42:52 PM CST

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I had to hit the link to read about A38 - I didn't really pay too much attention

back then and I have a hard time remembering the numbered and lettered initiatives - unless they have a catchy name or they win.

1) Did anyone really think it was a good idea to make it easier for initiatives and amendments?

2) Why didn't it come back again and again ala TABOR and personhood?

3) Who were all those posters?  Yikes.
Were they mostly just campaign shills?  I mean I'm not involved in any campaigns right now - am I just in the wrong place?

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010

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by: BICora @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 12:54:49 PM CST

I suppose you can say McInnis

has the decency to backpedal, which is probably why he isn't far right enough for the base.  The base wants to believe that we can have everything we need to be a functional society with a functional infrastructure, while paying next to nothing in taxes, if "the government" would just start saving string or something.

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by: BlueCat @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 13:02:26 PM CST

I agree

My first thought was that McInnis has decided to be a grown-up in this race. If so, that's good news for all of us.

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 13:24:06 PM CST

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Grown up?

He agreed to whatever he had to agree to to get Penry out of the race.

Then he unagreed to it.

Sounds intellectually dishonest to me, but your mileage may vary.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 13:36:05 PM CST

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what, if anything, have Josh and Tank had to say about Scooter's back pedaling on thr auto fees?

   McInnis could have spun this story better and blamed the Dems.  
  Sean Duffy should have said, "Sure Gov. McInnis would love to repeal what Bill Ritter has done with auto registration fees, but his hands will be tied by the Democrat-controlled legislature.  Now if the voters are good enough to elect Scott and enough pro-TABOR Repubs to the legislature, we can do away with all taxes and fees."

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by: One Queer Dude @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 17:42:50 PM CST

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Could have, should have

But didn't.

Because there's no excuse for it.  No way to spin flip-flopping without calling attention to it.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 19:57:59 PM CST

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"unagreed"

nice

And you say that it like it was a bad thing.

Sounds exactly like what his party forces candidates to do.

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by: MADCO @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 22:07:23 PM CST

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Name a politician that doesn't do this

Now I'm all in favor of using this flip-flop both to sow dissension within Republican ranks and to denigrate McInnis in the general - that's how the game is played.

But would you prefer that McInnis ran on the fantasyland platform of more services and reduced taxes? He flipped this fast before the unrealistic approach took on a life of it's own.

I'm hopeful this will lead to a realistic discussion of what level of services the people in this state want to be taxed for. That is a discussion we desperately need to have.

This also should but us Dems on notice - McInnis is not going to pander to the base - he's going the moderate route starting today. Not good news (for those of us on the side of everything pure & good in the world).

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 23:36:47 PM CST

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Nice benefit of the doubt David

but McGinnis is going to be constantly scrutinized by the tea-baggers to see if he walks and talks their righteous values.  He might be a better campaigner than Beauprez but he is going to carry around a sack load of crazies with him the whole campaign.

Ritters best course of action is to stay with his objectives and get something done.  The tea-baggers will howl as usual like dogs baying at the moon but they won't control this election.  The key to his reelection are the good folks who voted for Obama and change but are currently sour on Obama and the perceived ineffective actions of Democratic politicians.  If Ritter can bring in his base, he'll do fine going head to head with McGinnis over his record.  

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 06:40:36 AM CST

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I asked about the McGinnis thing the other day,

no one told me the joke.

So what's the joke?

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 08:53:46 AM CST

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I told you

It's a sign of disrespect.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 08:54:31 AM CST

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Sorry!

Must've missed it.

So it's about as clever as calling Ritter Governor Bitter?  I'm a bit disappointed.

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 09:00:49 AM CST

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It's exactly as clever

As calling the "Democratic" Party the "Democrat" party, which McInnis has been known to do from time to time.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 09:05:53 AM CST

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?

What McGinnis thing?

Is this some other grudge that you are carrying around nursing for all it's worth?

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 09:50:04 AM CST

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His name is McInnis.

Not a grudge apparently, just you not being able to read.  Or are facts still optional?

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 13:09:52 PM CST

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Sorry typo

Just kidding.  It is so more important to catch people with typing errors than to discuss the merits of the positions.

You get an A for catching spelling errors.  Go to the head of the class.  Too bad you don't have anything to offer on the substance of the subject.

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 15:58:40 PM CST

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I can't spell and you can't write

so what does it mean?

Boring, bland, and butt hurt "I'm the victim" writing versus sloppy facts and poor spelling.

How about trying some outrageous imagery like "sack of crazies" or maybe an analogy or simile or pertinent point about the topic?  Anything to let us know that you write because you enjoy it and understand what colorful and concise prose is about?  Unfortunately like McInnis you're more obsessed with picky petty points than offering anything of substance and entertainment.

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by: Gilpin Guy @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 23:05:28 PM CST

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What are you whining about?

Seriously, I've lost track.  But I'm shocked to see you still doing it.

I would write something about these two posts, but why bother?  You've managed to prove, again, that you don't bother to read comments OR diaries you respond to.  So blah, blah, blah, kittens.  Go nuts!

"I'm all naked and wet!" - Homer Simpson

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by: droll @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 11:58:12 AM CST

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How is McInnis going to contrast himself with Governor Ritter now that he has thrown the' Platform for Prosperity" overboard?

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by: Republican 36 @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 18:03:42 PM CST

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The mustache.

and the teabags.

"Why do Republicans get to be stupid and win while whenever we're stupid, we're just stupid?"  sufimarie Feb 2010

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by: BICora @ Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 11:20:45 AM CST

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It's just policy!

Everyone knows the right-wing is driven by theatrics (birthers, teabaggers, 9/12'ers), not real policy, so we can go ahead and throw this out as damaging McInnis's chances.

Has anyone compared the "Platform for Prosperity" with the RNC's purity test for candidates?  

"Suddenly, it may be cool to be American again" - William J. Kole

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by: Go Blue @ Fri Nov 27, 2009 at 17:31:03 PM CST

UberCons have doubts about McInnis

Mesa County R's might now want to sign on to healthcare reform in an effort to get mental heath treatment for their severe depression triggered by Josh Penry being strong armed out of the Republican primary.  The valley's own Glenn Beck wannbe, Rick Wagner, laments about what that depression has did to Conservatives in his Daily Sentinel column this week.

"Some have wondered if the delay of an endorsement by Penry and the decision by the quite conservative Tancredo were the result of the McInnis campaign agreeing to sign onto the subsequently launched "Platform for Prosperity," a pledge outlining fairly conservative principles designed to return the state to fiscal and mental equilibrium.  The platform is modeled after the 1994 GOP "Contract for America," which turned Congress over to Republicans and Bill Clinton over to moderation.

Many have worried that McInnis, without pressure from the conservative Penry, will begin to tack to the left - assuming that without a well-financed challenger on his right he should run to the middle.

That would not be a clever move in this political season. Even in the most mundane of political eras, the chances of covering much ground while riding the fence are slim. I am confident that Scott McInnis is smart enough to not throw his saddle over the split rail and hope to ride it to the governor's mansion.

Fence mending needs to be done by the McInnis campaign, however, among former Penry supporters - especially conservative independents."

Apparently, the Wag disagrees with editorial boards and moderate voters across the state when he says the R "Contract on Colorado" is a good thing.  If McInnis just adheres to Wagner's far right extremist wants, everything will come up roses for him, says he.  Good luck with that.  The only "fence mending" McInnis will be doing is with the left of the political landscape.  And we know, that will further erode the "mental equilibrium" of his teabagger crowd.  It is not going to be a happy time for Conservatives in Happy Valley for years to come.  Now, will Ricky favor public long term catastrophic health care for Cons in an effort to pull them out of their funk?

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by: WesternSlopeThought @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 14:48:26 PM CST

Wagner is Happy Valley's star idiot

McInnis would go to Bill Clinton for campaign advice before he'd go near Wagner.

But it still will be a happy time for the wingnuts in Happy Valley because they are oblivious to reality.

They honestly think the streets and highways can be built and maintained, the cops paid, jails, prisons and courts well-staffed, education funded (as long as lots of charters are funded, too) and enjoy all this without paying taxes.

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by: gertie97 @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 17:06:26 PM CST

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How stupid is this guy?

Even in the most mundane of political eras, the chances of covering much ground while riding the fence are slim.

The best road to winning is to being this slightly to the right (or left) of your opponent. You win by getting the largest number of votes, not the most passion behind a minority of votes.

Tom Tancredo Interview

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by: DavidThi808 @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 18:32:46 PM CST

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Smart enough to get a JD and pass the bar.

But still wrong.

Best to kill them early instead of letting them possibly need food stamps.
--marilou, 2010

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by: Ralphie @ Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 20:20:20 PM CST

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