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March 19, 2018 07:14 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Neutrality is at times a graver sin than belligerence.”

–Louis D. Brandeis

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17 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. The FBI knows it.  So do you.

    Trump stinks.

    Trump also colludes with Putin.

    He's already worn out five pairs of knee pads.

    Lock up the bribe-taking skank!

    Stay upwind, America.

  2. Michael Bloomberg putting $1 million into Mike Johnston’s super PAC

    So, what’s the difference between having a PAC spending money on you and accepting donations from PACs? Just curious, because I remember it being reported that Mike had pledged not to take PAC money for his campaign.

    None of the money Johnston collected came from political action committees, following the candidate’s pledge from his prior campaigns not to take PAC dollars. He also didn’t contribute any money from his own pocket.

    “I know that sometimes it can feel like our politics are pulling us apart, but these last three months have reaffirmed the frontier truth that working together we can build things no one of us could dream alone — that is the spirit that built Colorado, and is the force that is building this campaign,” Johnston said in a statement.

    I get the spirit and the force, but the money building this campaign seems like it’s mostly from New York and California.

    1. It won't matter unless Johnston can sway the Ginsburg or uncommitted delegates to boost him over the 10% threshold at the state assembly.  Doable, unless the delegates decide to rally around Cary and/or Jared.

        1. Ok, I guess I misunderstood the rules.  I thought if you declare for the caucus process, you need 10% or more, irrespective of turning in sufficient number of signatures on a petition.

        2. Here is what I was going from:

          this note

          Candidates who receive 30+% support make the June ballot.  Candidates who receive 10-29% are ballot eligible but MUST have turned in sufficient petitions by March 20.  Candidates who receive under 10% are denied ballot access (unless they did not declare for the caucus process in the first place).

          1. Davie, you are correct. If Johnston had skipped the caucus/assembly route, he would be on the ballot right now. But since he did the hybrid route, he needs at least 10% of the delegates at the state assembly which will require him to pick off some uncommitted delegates and delegates who are currently supporting a different candidate.

          2. Sorry, Davie.  I should have seen I needed to add more.  The process is pretty opaque, so I totally understand it.

            My understanding is this.  Candidates have to affirmatively state to the party leaders that they intended to participate in and, therefore be bound by, the assembly process.  I don't believe that happens until the level of the county assembly.  They send a letter or some such, IIRC,  I expect you'll not see Johnston doing this based on the preference poll results.

            It would be nice if there was somewhere this was laid out, but I couldn't find it.  Maybe in the party candidate handbook.

            1. That's interesting.  Mike Johnston got up and gave a politely received pitch at my caucus that night (along with Cary Kennedy and Leslie Herod standing in for Jared), so naturally, I assumed the commitment was a done deal.

              I'd be a little surprised if you could cancel your entry in a race after the starting gun has already fired, though. But if so, he’d be wise to do just that.

               

              1. Again, and I subject myself to my betters crushing me on this, I believe that the caucus preference poll is just that and the "legal" (can't think of a better word, but the formal part under the party rules) process begins at the assembly.  Folks aren't "delegates" until the assembly, and the promotion rules "15%" to get a delegate, rather than 10% support threshold from delegates is different, too.

                My poor understanding is that the gun doesn’t actually “fire” until the county assembly.

                1. I guess you are right.  I just got a call from someone asking me, as a delegate to next Saturday's assembly, to support their bid to unseat Diana DeGette!

                  I didn't catch their name, but looking up on Google, I see she has 3 Democratic challengers, so the rules must give them a Hail Mary's chance to get on the ballot at assembly.

                  1. David Sedbrook spoke at the Jeffco assembly on Saturday. He got about 17% and 9 delegates to the CD 1 assembly on 4/13. IIRC DeGette got 45 delegates.

                    There was a third candidate (whose name I do not remember) but since she had not yet officially entered, the county chair told people if they wanted to vote for her, they should simply cast ballots for uncommitted. A couple of people did. 

                    P.S. Your link jarred my memory. It was Rao who was mentioned as not having declared to go the assembly route yet, so if anyone wanted to vote for her, they needed to vote uncommitted. The third one – Hudson – was never mentioned at all.

    1. Why, yes. Your friendly Colorado Democratic Party has results posted from all county caucuses that were held a week ago, right here.

      https://www.coloradodems.org/caucus-results/

      The assembly results will look pretty similar, (because they are drawn from basically the same pool of people ) but are not yet posted on the Colorado Dems site. Our chair had 4 days to get the results to the state party.

      Looks like Kennedy got 49.2 to Polis' 32.7, Johnston got 8.8, Ginsberg got 1.8, Underwood got below 1%

      I predict very similar results from the assemblies.

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