Pols Poll: Governor (Democrats)

What's Joan FItz-Gerald doing these days?

Just wishful thinking...

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by: redstateblues @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 19:44:43 PM UTC

I posed the same question two weeks ago on here

Shall we start a Draft J.F.G. movement?

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by: One Queer Dude @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 22:56:02 PM UTC

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Just start a FB page, reserve a few likely domains, and start some rumors.

Bingo! Primary.

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by: MADCO @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 17:32:51 PM UTC

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Apparently

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by: redstateblues @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 19:04:04 PM UTC

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You also need to

buy a table at a big Democratic dinner. Then in six months you've got yourself a primary!

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by: RedGreen @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 19:33:34 PM UTC

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I "like" this comment

This blog is your blog, this blog is my blog

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by: sufimarie @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 02:50:46 AM UTC

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31.82% of liberal Democrats so far think he wont?

Wow.  He's in a bad way.  Worse than I already thought.

Health care "reform" will die in the Senate, and for their efforts, Democrats will be widely thrown out of office in 2010.  Don't say I didn't warn you.

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by: BoulderRepublican @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 19:46:07 PM UTC

Your concern-trolling is much appreciated

n/t

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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by: Ralphie @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 19:52:26 PM UTC

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Don't worry

It's not because the GOP has fielded any candidates worth voting for.

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by: redstateblues @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 19:54:46 PM UTC

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Tenuki...

A friend and I were playing the Asian game Go in a coffee shop. A man we knew to be a master player was watching the game closely, and frowning.

After I made a move that I thought was clever, he gave a heavy sigh and said, "hopeless."

"Which side is hopeless," I asked, "black or white?"

He shrugged and said, "Both."

Will Ritter be re-elected? Maybe not, but then again... nobody is likely to beat him either, so there you are.

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by: Aaron Silverstein @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 20:03:42 PM UTC

Obviously the real losers

are the voters.

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by: redstateblues @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 20:07:24 PM UTC

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That's their campaign strategy

"Vote for Ritter. He's better than a Republican."

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by: Chef @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 23:28:27 PM UTC

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Why not?

It got him elected the first time.

Sometimes, I guess, you have to let the inner bitch out.

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by: gertie97 @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 00:38:15 AM UTC

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Well, it might work again

"Vote Ritter. He's better than a Republican by a tiny margin and he doesn't give a lump of steaming hash what you think or want in a Governor." Sounds a little long, but catchy.  

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by: Chef @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 20:21:07 PM UTC

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Ritter will win.

After Romanoff takes the nomination, Democrats will pull together in excitement and support the whole ticket.  Key will be the unaffiliateds and any remaining moderate Republicans.

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by: paulrosenthal @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 20:42:01 PM UTC

And if Romanoff doesn't win?

Will Democrats still pull together in excitement and support the whole ticket?

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by: redstateblues @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 20:55:17 PM UTC

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You mean WHEN Romanoff doesn't win?

There's no "if" in this case. Romanoff's political career is over no matter what anybody wants to think. The national political machine is pushing him out of the way and he's never going to have real support ever again.

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by: greality @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 21:56:53 PM UTC

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I don't know who is going to win here.

If I had to bet something meaningful, I'd go with Bennet. But to assert that Romanoff's political career is over and that he will never have "real support" again is both unfounded and ridiculous. He doesn't have national party support in this race--that doesn't preclude him from their support down the road.

"I wouldn't characterize caloric intake as "professional development." c rork

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by: Middle of the Road @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 22:05:59 PM UTC

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IF or WHEN...

Nothing precludes him running for Gov in 2014 (except Cary Kennedy's ambition.)

A woman's health decisions are a private matter between her priest and her husband.

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by: DaftPunk @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 00:32:05 AM UTC

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Actually

If he gets the crap beaten out of him in a primary of choice, and it ends up costing the Democratic party the seat, then I doubt that he will be able to run another high-profile campaign so soon.

Although if anybody could overcome such negativity, it would probably be Romanoff.

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by: redstateblues @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 00:37:57 AM UTC

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A lot of ifs...

Andrew'd have to muck up Bennett with some dirt that Norton would use to beat him that she couldn't come up with on her own for him to toast his career.

Bennett may be a lackluster campaigner fully capable of losing the seat on his own.  Romanoff's primary would have to be the reason for the loss.  Spending money he could have saved for the general could do in Bennett, but the R will be drained from a primary too.

I just don't think Andrew's interested in the executive branch.  Otherwise he could have taken any of the number of placeholder jobs he's been floated for while biding his time to 2014.  I think he sees this as his last opportunity for a LOOONG time for the job he really wants.

If he were elected, I think he'd be the poorest member of "the world's most exclusive millionairesb club."

A woman's health decisions are a private matter between her priest and her husband.

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by: DaftPunk @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 03:32:36 AM UTC

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Exactly right

This race is about Andrew getting the job Andrew wants. Nothing wrong with that, but I think that it's a huge mistake, and his leadership qualities are needed in this state--not in Washington.

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by: redstateblues @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 14:54:04 PM UTC

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Nixon's career was over, too.......

"Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." Paul Krugman, 9/2010

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by: parsingreality @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 02:05:52 AM UTC

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yes

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by: One Queer Dude @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 22:57:27 PM UTC

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I sure as hell hope so

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by: redstateblues @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 00:09:11 AM UTC

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I would love to see "paulrosenthal"'s answer to your question

...his particular answer could not have been so deliberately specific, could it?

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

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by: Jambalaya @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 23:00:02 PM UTC

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No

When AR doesn't win- and perhaps withdraws for lack of $ - the D's will not unite in an excited, GOTV and sweep Ritter into 4more.

Instead, the R's will mistakenly smell blood in the water and think it's their clue to move even further to the R.  ANd the discussion amongst the swing voters will be about holding noses and fake whining about not getting better candidates.

I have gleeful R neighbors who see the approval numbers for Congress- Pelosi and Reid in particular - and the President and Governor slipping and feel vindicated. See- the center/right conservative majority is waking up.
They are not amused when I point out that the slipping approval on almost any issue is equal part swing votes,  well, swinging and D's venting their frustration with our elected officials that they don't move further left fast enough.

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by: MADCO @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 17:39:06 PM UTC

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Approval numbers for Congress?

Citing just Reid and Pelosi?  Aren't there two sides of the aisle in Congress?

Yes, apparently there are.  Reid's numbers are certainly in the crapper.  Just 31 percent favorable and 57 percent unfavorable.  Pelosi's too: 34 percent favorable and 57 percent unfavorable.

But each has a counterpart on the other side of the aisle.  Reid's counterpart, Mitch McConnell, is polling at just 18 percent favorable and 64 percent unfavorable.  Pelosi's counterpart, John "this is a real suntan, dammit" Boehner is polling at just 12 percent favorable and 63 percent unfavorable.

Your neighbors are seeing half the story.  Everything is relative.

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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by: Ralphie @ Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 02:09:52 AM UTC

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maybe

I don't think it really matters whether Romanoff wins or not, who wins the Governorship. The general monkey-mass that is the public mind does not connect Romanoff with Ritter. All they know is Ritter is a 50-50 self-serving guy and Romanoff is running contrary to his appointed pick. No real connection there to the public. "Party activists" want Dems in all offices, regardless.

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by: Chef @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 23:31:27 PM UTC

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are you ever going to return to South Park?

or, did I miss the return?

I'm not as sweet as I used to be.

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by: Jambalaya @ Mon Sep 28, 2009 at 23:37:45 PM UTC

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I thought he was killed off?

n/t

Today, you're either going to get better or you're going to get worse, but you're never going to be the same.  Which one will it be?  --Joseph V. Paterno

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by: Ralphie @ Tue Sep 29, 2009 at 15:30:32 PM UTC

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He's delusional

Thinks he is Kenny.

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by: WesternSlopeThought @ Wed Sep 30, 2009 at 01:10:23 AM UTC

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