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January 22, 2018 05:19 AM UTC

2018 Government Shutdown Day 3 Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1. The great Accommodationist, SFL Bennet, is dying to vote with Mitch McConnell, Cory Gardner, and the Republican Majority on this and he’ll get head pats from everyone, especially the Op-Ed writers who all love that kind of thing.

    1. More anti-Bennet platitudes. I note that you never answered John in Denver's straight, open question about your alternative to Bennet in the Shutdown Day 1 thread. 

    2. To echo Banger, what is your alternative?  All you do us complain about Bennet not being pure as the driven snow, even though he votes the right way most of the time.  Kick back.  Take some Ambien or weed and chill if you can't stop being one note.

  2. CHB — I don't know if you get the NYTimes — but here is a good article updating the ranking of the worst presidents, where Trump appears to be safely ensconced in only his rookie year:

    New presidents also try to avoid partisan and factional rancor, and endeavor to unite the country in a great common purpose. In line with their oath of office, they dedicate themselves to safeguarding and even advancing democratic rights and to protecting the nation against foreign enemies. They avoid even the slightest imputation of corruption, of course political but above all financial.

    Donald Trump, in each area, has been a colossal failure. The truest measure of his performance comes from comparing his first year not with those of the best — Washington, Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt — but with those of the worst.

    Over the decades, historians’ ratings of presidents have consistently consigned a dozen or so presidents to the bottom of the heap, including James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce and, in recent evaluations, George W. Bush. Some of these presidents failed because they made disastrous miscalculations. Others were victims of circumstances not of their own making but whose decisions made things worse.

    Still others were accidental presidents of limited skill and credibility who succeeded men who died in office. And then there were a few presidents who abused their position or permitted rampant corruption. Yet the first years of these failed presidencies were not always so bad, and in nearly every case not as bad as Mr. Trump’s.

     

    1. I did not see the Times article. Thanks for sharing. I would disagree slightly; as an example, Nixon did a lot more for the environment than just NEPA. But, in general, he is spot on about Trump. What is interesting about Trump; implied in the article; is that Trump does so much to sink his own ship, so to speak. He just can’t stop tweeting. 

      1. Some of those tweets will likely be used against Trump in future proceedings.  The action will definitely heat up just in time for the November elections.

        Just the timely reminder voters will need to justify wholesale updates to our representation at all levels.

  3. Unrelated to the federal government shutdown, the Colorado Supreme Court today pounded the final nail into the coffin of Jane Norton's dumbfuck lawsuit against Planned Parenthood and the governor. The opinion's available here.

        1. LWNJs?  (They are like Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Rand Paul in a parallel universe.)

          I stand corrected. I looked at the complete list. It’s no parallel universe. Lee and Paul voted with the 16 Democrats in the purity caucus.

          It is said that ideology is not linear but circular, and if you go far enough to the right and far enough to the left, they meet up.

          1. You'd have to come up with a completely different notion of "the left" than we have today to call the group of Democrats who voted against cloture "left-wing nutjobs."

            The ones I listed have all been trotted out as 2020 presidential hopefuls.

          2. You sure like to toss that "LWNJ" slur around. What exactly does a "left wing nut job" believe, you think, as opposed to a non-nut job Democrat or liberal?

            Just wondering, since I'm sure I'd be included in your LWNJ category.

      1. A”bi-partisan compromise” plus the “gubermint” reopening (with CHIP and DACA considerations) . . 

        . . . Jeepers, I hope all our Colorado Grammys out there are covered for flooding, from weeping and gnashing of teeth . . . 

    1. Notice that McConnell only promised to take up immigration *after* Feb 8th.

      Mr. McConnell pledged Monday morning that he would permit a “free and open debate” on immigration next month if the issue had not been resolved by then.

      Since it's an absolute lock that it won't be resolved by the next shutdown date, McConnell can claim that he hasn't broken his promise, and so a shutdown on the 8th will be easily blamed on Democrats.

      And so the Kabuki Theatrical act continues…

      1. Anyone who trusts Mitch McConnell is a fool. He is a fascist, like most of Trumps' people.

        So the scuttlebutt this morning is that is was Steven Miller that convinced Trump to scuttle the deal with Schumer. Between Miller and Marc Short, Trump has his own Haldeman and Erlichmann. These are the really dangerous ones….they were not elected and are only accountable to the president.

  4. I'm still wondering if there is enough of a consensus in the House to support the short-term deal. There is a large number of Democrats who won't vote for it because of no DACA resolution. There is a sizable number of Republicans who won't vote for it because it removes CHIP as a bargaining chip (if you'll pardon the expression). There may even be a few Republicans who won't vote for it because it doesn't do enough for the military.

  5. Duke.  Weren't you the one who brought up Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine the other day?

    Rossello announces in an address to the Puerto Rico that PREPA will be privatized, says that the energy company can no longer operate as it does now. He adds that this will be a step in modernizing the island.

    — Joshua Hoyos (@JoshuaHoyos) January 22, 2018

    1. I've brought up the Shock Doctrine, too. With Puerto Rico, I've thought all along that Trump's malign neglect was a despicable, almost ethnic-cleansing level way to decimate a population and an economy in order to maximize profit. I've been expecting an announcement about leveling neighborhoods to make way for a new hotel and Trump-branded golf course.

      The reality seems to be not as bad – the new emergency manager, Zamot, is reputedly receptive to the help of Elon Musk, whose renewable energy  has been keeping the lights on in the children's hospital. But the island should and could be nearly 100% renewable.  Fossil fuels should be only for emergencies.

      I have some Puerto Rican refugee students. They are bright, well-educated, grateful but bewildered at their new cultural environment….and they are very aware that "Trump no care for us".

        1. I'm thinking the list of disasters that are NOT man-made is dwindling – maybe only volcanoes now. We had wildfires in Texas today – in January. Disasters 24/7, year-round, ripe for the capitalists.

      1. Have you ever sat through a hard-sell time-share presentation?

        The negotiating tactics of the time-shares sales environment are truly a form of brainwashing.

        I agree that the Shock Doctrine is a good framework to view our present environment. Specifically, I believe that Trump natively understands hard-sell condo sales.

  6. Remember Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys? You could hardly forget, since the ad for his CRTV special is regularly blazoned across Pols' headline. McInnes is a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole masquerading as a hipster. Here's a screen shot of the ad:

     

    Last night in New York, he and his homies had a little hate -fest, which Huffpo labeled as , "Scenes from a drunken huddle of angry white men", and they called a "Freedom party".

    Their event was supposed to be the "men's rights" answer to the women's marches. Chelsea Manning made an appearance to confront McInnes & Co, and lived to tell.

    In regard to the Google ad for McInnes CRTV show, it appears to be a Google ads decision, not a Pols decision. However, we as readers of this blog can keep on clicking the X, "Don't show this ad", with whatever reason you want to put. That may be the only way it doesn't continue to haunt the space above the Big LIne.

     

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